caulfield12 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Great, now Israel, empowered under the cover of Trump, is basically annexing parts of the West Bank with their new "legalization" bill...can't wait for Trump's first real foreign policy crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) Great, now Israel, empowered under the cover of Trump, is basically annexing parts of the West Bank with their new "legalization" bill...can't wait for Trump's first real foreign policy crisis At this pace we are looking at next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:33 AM) Conway was on GMA spouting the same thing while trying to redirect to veterans who needs help. I can't stand that woman. Can you imagine what she will look like in 4 years? I agree with you but boo misogyny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Full Text of Draft Dissent Channel Memo on Trump Refugee and Visa Order Consider this a major bureaucratic uprising on the part of career foreign service officers against the President on his executive order on refugees. Numerous Foreign Service officers and other diplomats have drafted a dissent memo expressing opposition to President Donald Trump’s executive order banning refugees and immigrants from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen from entering the United States. ABC reported this morning on the draft, which is likely to be submitted today. Here’s a copy of the actual draft. We are hearing that literally hundreds of foreign service officers are planning to be party to the dissent memo; it’s still unclear exactly how many. We have redacted all names and personally identifiable information from this document. The State Department’s Dissent Channel is a mechanism for employees to confidentially express policy disagreement, created in 1971 as a response to concerns within the Department over the government’s handling of the Vietnam War. Authors of a memo submitted through the Channel, which is open to all regular employees of the State Department and USAID, may not be subject to any penalty or disciplinary action in response. Once a memo is submitted, the Secretary of State’s Policy Planning Staff must acknowledge its receipt within two working days and will usually distribute it to the Secretary of State, the Deputy Secretary of State, the Under Secretary for Political Affairs, the Chairperson of the Open Forum, and, if the memo’s author is employed by USAID, by the head of that agency as well. Taking into account the wishes of the author, the memo may also be distributed more broadly within the State Department and may be done so anonymously. The ultimate significance of the channel is that memos must receive a substantive response within 30-60 working days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Was pretty awesome to march among thousands last night at a pro-immigration/refugee rally last night in downtown Seattle. Edited January 30, 2017 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 11:11 AM) Was pretty awesome to march among thousands last night at a pro-immigration/refugee rally last night in downtown Seattle. Seattle and Boston's marches looked YUUUUGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 the DHS made it fairly clear that they did not feel bound to obey any court orders. CBP continued to deny all access to counsel, detain people, and deport them in direct contravention to the court’s order, citing “upper management,” and the DHS made a formal (but confusing) statement that they would continue to follow the President’s orders. I'll just claim ignorance here but shouldn't these folks be arrested or something for disobeying court orders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 11:27 AM) I'll just claim ignorance here but shouldn't these folks be arrested or something for disobeying court orders? This is the part where, if you check out that article I posted that's been shared by Shaun King on social media, it hypothesizes that this is a test to see what they can get away with in ignoring the courts. It's a terrifying, terrifying proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) Was pretty awesome to march among thousands last night at a pro-immigration/refugee rally last night in downtown Seattle. What is this obsession by conservatives that people who protest don't have jobs. Like it's some how impossible to do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) What is this obsession by conservatives that people who protest don't have jobs. Like it's some how impossible to do both. It was also a sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) What is this obsession by conservatives that people who protest don't have jobs. Like it's some how impossible to do both. That idea that we should always be so busy working that we have no time for civic or political engagement is toxic anyway, but trying to trot out "get a job!" on a weekend is pretty sad. Trump signs another EO to implement his "repeal 2 regulations for every 1 new one" idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) What is this obsession by conservatives that people who protest don't have jobs. Like it's some how impossible to do both. Aubrey Huff was all over that this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Jim Sciutto ✔ @jimsciutto Just in: Israel seeking clarity on #TrumpTravelBan - 145,000 Jews born in 7 countries listed in EO incl 54,000 in Iraq & 45,000 in Iran 10:01 AM - 30 Jan 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Did they walk back the dual citizenship part yet? Getting accurate info from this group is impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) What is this obsession by conservatives that people who protest don't have jobs. Like it's some how impossible to do both. It's less direct than calling them all lazy, welfare-scamming leeches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Aubrey Huff getting destroyed on Twitter is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Jim Sciutto ✔ @jimsciutto Just in: Israel seeking clarity on #TrumpTravelBan - 145,000 Jews born in 7 countries listed in EO incl 54,000 in Iraq & 45,000 in Iran 10:01 AM - 30 Jan 2017 Uh oh, we might have a conflict between the anti-semite faction of Trump supporters and the Israel-is-always-right-about-everything faction of Trump supporters. Edited January 30, 2017 by CrimsonWeltall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yeah something is going to give soon with that. The priebus interview defending the removal of mentioning Jews from the holocaust is something that is so outside how we have treated things forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mocks-schu...-144218788.html Trump twice mocks Schumer for crying about refugee ban...hello Democratic legislation coming down the pike that's going to force the GOP to choose Trump/party unity or their clear consciences Eleven days in and we've already had our first, "Brownie, you're doing a great job!" moment...which was the whole "it's going great!" response when questioned about the implementation of the Muslim ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:46 AM) Uh oh, we might have a conflict between the anti-semite faction of Trump supporters and the Israel-is-always-right-about-everything faction of Trump supporters. Yeah thats going to be a battle. His main advisors believe that Jewish Zionists run the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 08:49 AM) Yeah something is going to give soon with that. The priebus interview defending the removal of mentioning Jews from the holocaust is something that is so outside how we have treated things forever. All Holocaust Victims Matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 11:27 AM) I'll just claim ignorance here but shouldn't these folks be arrested or something for disobeying court orders? I'm going to guess those reports aren't entirely true. Otherwise there's a suspicious lack of investigating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Matthew Yglesias ✔ @mattyglesias Schumer is a “no” on Mulvaney, Price, Mnuchin, Pruitt, Puzder, DeVos, Tillerson, and Sessions. 10:46 AM - 30 Jan 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (G&T @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) I'm going to guess those reports aren't entirely true. Otherwise there's a suspicious lack of investigating. There is a curious situation right now where both the detainees are not getting access to lawyers but also reassurance that the court order is going to be followed. If people still detained thru tomorrow, it will be more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Cool, vote against it, they are still going to all be confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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