Soxbadger Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) Do you have a link? I just searched yahoo and couldn't find it http://nypost.com/2017/02/12/clinton-remin...e-election/amp/ At first I thought it was satire, then I realized it wasnt and a part of me cried. These are the only parts you need to see to tell the tone: The activist judges who based their ruling on their liberal politics instead of the Constitution are the same kind she would appoint to the Supreme Court and all other federal courts if she were in the Oval Office. Contempt for others lets mayors think they can disobey immigration laws and judges think there is no law but theirs. First, the jubilation among Democrats and their media handmaidens reveals how their hatred for Trump and his supporters overshadows any concern for national security. The ruling that the government showed “no evidence” that the travel ban would prevent terrorism is preposterous and should alarm every American. Like I said, if it was satire, it would have been great. Edited February 13, 2017 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:24 PM) Did u read that story on yahoo front page reminding us why it's good Hillary isn't president? My head may be in the sand, but ultimately I think history will prove I was right about voting for neither. After watching XFL 30 on 30 ESPN last night I still love Jesse Ventura. History will prove you to willfully ignorant and sanctimonious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Shouldn't we all? "Reality" TV game shows are a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) Did u read that story on yahoo front page reminding us why it's good Hillary isn't president? My head may be in the sand, but ultimately I think history will prove I was right about voting for neither. After watching XFL 30 on 30 ESPN last night I still love Jesse Ventura. There is actually no way for history to prove you right that Hillary Clinton would have been a poor President because, well, she's not the President. If Donald Trump is a disaster for his entire term, there will be no evidence as to whether a Clinton presidency would have been better or worse because she is not the President. As an aside, Greg, I think we all need to have a discussion about the difference between "editorials," and reporting based on facts. Like, that Yahoo article is an editorial - meaning that it's just one man's opinion. Most of the reporting on the Trump administration thus far that has people worried is based on fact (his lies about voter fraud and the murder rate, using the Presidency to urge people to buy his daughter's products, doubling the fee to join Mar-a-Lago, conducting a foreign policy strategy session in the middle of a restaurant for anybody to see, etc.). Finally, why do you think Jesse Ventura would be a good President? I have literally no idea why an XFL documentary would make you want a Ventura presidency... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 08:26 PM) Do you have a link? I just searched yahoo and couldn't find it It was on yahoo but I guess FOX News wrote it http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/02/13/goodw...e-lost-election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) It was on yahoo but I guess FOX News wrote it http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/02/13/goodw...e-lost-election The one place you would find a "fair and balanced" article about Hillary Clinton is on the Fox News website. Everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) It was on yahoo but I guess FOX News wrote it http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/02/13/goodw...e-lost-election Actually its a New York Post editorial being reprinted by Fox. And you do realize that Venuta and Trump are almost opposite, Ventura is socially liberal, fiscally conservative. Trump is socially conservative, fiscally liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 lol. welcome back to the buster, greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) I'll take this one for Greg.. i havent heard anything about those topics but aside from what you say it seems like things are OK just wish Ventura would have run. that would have been fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) There is actually no way for history to prove you right that Hillary Clinton would have been a poor President because, well, she's not the President. If Donald Trump is a disaster for his entire term, there will be no evidence as to whether a Clinton presidency would have been better or worse because she is not the President. As an aside, Greg, I think we all need to have a discussion about the difference between "editorials," and reporting based on facts. Like, that Yahoo article is an editorial - meaning that it's just one man's opinion. Most of the reporting on the Trump administration thus far that has people worried is based on fact (his lies about voter fraud and the murder rate, using the Presidency to urge people to buy his daughter's products, doubling the fee to join Mar-a-Lago, conducting a foreign policy strategy session in the middle of a restaurant for anybody to see, etc.). Finally, why do you think Jesse Ventura would be a good President? I have literally no idea why an XFL documentary would make you want a Ventura presidency... You said: There is actually no way for history to prove you right that Hillary Clinton would have been a poor President because, well, she's not the President. If Donald Trump is a disaster for his entire term, there will be no evidence as to whether a Clinton presidency would have been better or worse because she is not the President. I say: I guess you are right that there is no absolute proof. You said: As an aside, Greg, I think we all need to have a discussion about the difference between "editorials," and reporting based on facts. Like, that Yahoo article is an editorial - meaning that it's just one man's opinion. Most of the reporting on the Trump administration thus far that has people worried is based on fact (his lies about voter fraud and the murder rate, using the Presidency to urge people to buy his daughter's products, doubling the fee to join Mar-a-Lago, conducting a foreign policy strategy session in the middle of a restaurant for anybody to see, etc.). I said: Yes that was an opinion piece. But remember there's no reason to bring Trump into any discussions with me. I'm not a fan and I didn't vote for him either. I think he's too much a 1 percenter to care about me or the middle class much. You said: Finally, why do you think Jesse Ventura would be a good President? I have literally no idea why an XFL documentary would make you want a Ventura presidency... I said: Well, he was loved in Minnesota and I've watched long interviews with him and I like his style. I guess some of his positions are very radical but I feel like he genuinely cares about people. I could be wrong but this is a world of style over substance and I like his style. He's convinced me he's good, not evil. Maybe it's too strong to say Trump and Hillary are evil, but I feel like they are not good for the average American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) I'll take this one for Greg.. i havent heard anything about those topics but aside from what you say it seems like things are OK just wish Ventura would have run. that would have been fun. You forgot to add a random question to the board about Chelsea Clinton and also remind everyone that you didn't vote for either of the 2 major candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) I too am going to start making all my voting decisions based on XFL documentaries. The guy who forgot to fill the generator with gas would never make a good president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) But remember there's no reason to bring Trump into any discussions with me. I'm not a fan and I didn't vote for him either. Hi, please check the name of the thread you're posting in, if you want to whine about Clinton maybe try starting a new thread or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 09:54 PM) You forgot to add a random question to the board about Chelsea Clinton and also remind everyone that you didn't vote for either of the 2 major candidates. I feel I have to remind people because I get lumped in with Trump lovers. I'm just giving him a chance unlike many on the board. We couldn't even have a nice thread wishing him the best after the election. There's no reason for me to want Trump to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 09:56 PM) Hi, please check the name of the thread you're posting in, if you want to whine about Clinton maybe try starting a new thread or something? Oops I could have put it in the Democrat thread I guess. But I started in here praising Brett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) Oops I could have put it in the Democrat thread I guess. But I started in here praising Brett. No, that is not the correct thread to post (again) about how much you don't like Clinton either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 09:58 PM) No, that is not the correct thread to post (again) about how much you don't like Clinton either! She's still a Democrat. I guess I am a failure at board decorum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 02:56 PM) I feel I have to remind people because I get lumped in with Trump lovers. I'm just giving him a chance unlike many on the board. We couldn't even have a nice thread wishing him the best after the election. There's no reason for me to want Trump to fail. I gave Trump a legitimate chance. I could never have predicted that within less than 100 hundred days hed be challenging Nixon for most dishonest President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Apparently according to Kellyanne, Trump is still on board with Flynn. Makes sense. Bouncing him for lying would be sort of hypocritical at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Good god, I was about to be a little relieved to go from Flynn to Petraeus, a man who legitimately compromised the states secrets for his mistress, only to find out that this ridiculous man can lie to the public about something as big as thsi with zero repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 One thing Trump's managed to highlight in only three short weeks is that our oversight system is woefully inadequate if it doesn't function at all if Congress and the President are the same party, which appears to be the case. Really need some sort of permanent independent oversight system, or a way for the minority in the House to still be able to force legitimate investigations and committees to happen. If Clinton had done 1/10th of what Trump's already done, Republicans would (rightfully) be hounding her to the ends of the Earth with a never-ending series of House investigations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 01:44 PM) One thing Drumpf's managed to highlight in only three short weeks is that our oversight system is woefully inadequate if it doesn't function at all if Congress and the President are the same party, which appears to be the case. Really need some sort of permanent independent oversight system, or a way for the minority in the House to still be able to force legitimate investigations and committees to happen. If Clinton had done 1/10th of what Drumpf's already done, Republicans would (rightfully) be hounding her to the ends of the Earth with a never-ending series of House investigations. They're probably trying to restart investigations into Benghazi and the email server right now. Don't have to time to look into any of this new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 03:38 PM) Good god, I was about to be a little relieved to go from Flynn to Petraeus, a man who legitimately compromised the states secrets for his mistress, only to find out that this ridiculous man can lie to the public about something as big as thsi with zero repercussions. I'm sure he has been counseled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Republicans running scared of doing any more town halls...I guess that's one approach, just to never put yourself in a position to answer questions publicly except through less media-friendly conference calls. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/rep...ents/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 05:12 PM) Republicans running scared of doing any more town halls...I guess that's one approach, just to never put yourself in a position to answer questions publicly except through less media-friendly conference calls. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/rep...ents/index.html What's wrong GOP? Are you too thin skinned like your Overlord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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