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I just want to point out that while Flynn was getting s***canned, Mnunchin was confirmed. The guy who was busted for predatory loans and funneled 100 million through an offshore bank (and didn't mention that when being vetted, because that was an oversight) was just pushed through and congress was all "cool nbd"

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 08:38 AM)
I just want to point out that while Flynn was getting s***canned, Mnunchin was confirmed. The guy who was busted for predatory loans and funneled 100 million through an offshore bank (and didn't mention that when being vetted, because that was an oversight) was just pushed through and congress was all "cool nbd"

Draining the swamp. The 99% will not be forgotten. There is still some more to take from them.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 08:38 AM)
I just want to point out that while Flynn was getting s***canned, Mnunchin was confirmed. The guy who was busted for predatory loans and funneled 100 million through an offshore bank (and didn't mention that when being vetted, because that was an oversight) was just pushed through and congress the Republican Senate plus Manchin was all "cool nbd"

 

fyp

 

e: Mnuchin wants to appoint some other Goldman Sachs guys to the deputy level, too. Seems like handing over the Treasury department to the same investment bankers who tanked the world economy less than ten years ago is an extremely bad idea, but what do I know? Trump's the Greatest President in the Universe, so this must be a good thing.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 08:43 AM)
fyp

 

e: Mnuchin wants to appoint some other Goldman Sachs guys to the deputy level, too. Seems like handing over the Treasury department to the same investment bankers who tanked the world economy less than ten years ago is an extremely bad idea, but what do I know? Trump's the Greatest President in the Universe, so this must be a good great thing.

 

Fyp also :lol:

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DeVos, Sessions, Mnuchin/Munchkin, Tillerson, Puzder (if he survives), Price

Tier 1 Threats

 

Pence, Carson, Perry, Ross, Pruitt (EPA)

Tier 2

 

That's not even taking into consideration Bannon, Conway, Spicer, Miller and Priebus.

The funny thing is most of America probably couldn't name more than a handful of Obama's cabinet and staff members over the course of a full 8 years.

 

 

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 08:55 AM)
DeVos, Sessions, Mnuchin/Munchkin, Tillerson, Puzder (if he survives), Price

Tier 1 Threats

 

Pence, Carson, Perry, Ross, Pruitt (EPA)

Tier 2

 

That's not even taking into consideration Bannon, Conway, Spicer, Miller and Priebus.

The funny thing is most of America probably couldn't name more than a handful of Obama's cabinet and staff members over the course of a full 8 years.

 

Pence is 200% tier 1

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 08:43 AM)
fyp

 

e: Mnuchin wants to appoint some other Goldman Sachs guys to the deputy level, too. Seems like handing over the Treasury department to the same investment bankers who tanked the world economy less than ten years ago is an extremely bad idea, but what do I know? Trump's the Greatest President in the Universe, so this must be a good thing.

 

It's always Rubin's fault. Or Chris Dodd/Barney Frank.

 

Btw, what happened to that long "conspiracy theory" post about Obama's Goldman ties? Don't hear about that very often anymore. Or HRC speeches, even though Trump's speaking fees were considerably higher.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 08:56 AM)
Pence is 200% tier 1

 

For his extreme views, but all indications are he's still not very close to Trump and wasn't for the majority of the general election campaign, either.

 

That said, he's the key bridge between the White House and Congress right now.

 

 

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Fun things that have happened in the last 24 days:

 

-Started off day 2 of his Presidency melting down about crowd sizes

-Appointed and got confirmed to a Cabinet-level secretaryship a key PAC donor who showed very little understanding of the department she's now running and had ethical and financial disclosure issues (DeVos)

-Appointed and got confirmed to Attorney General a man who was racist enough for a 1980's Republican Senate to reject him and who made his first official action to rescind transgendered protections

-Approved a badly botched raid that resulted in the death of a Navy SEAL, an 8 year old American girl, and over two dozen civilians and the loss of a multi-million dollar aircraft while failing to accomplish its main objective. It also led to Yemen refusing continued special operations actions.

-Lost an entire department of senior international diplomacy personnel to mass resignations; State is now headed by a curiously Russian-friendly former oil company CEO who advocated against Russian sanctions in the past.

-Crashed a wedding with the Prime Minister of Japan at his private golf club

-Discussed military intelligence surrounding an emergent situation with North Korea in front of a crowd of unvetted civilians and foreign nationals

-Allowed unsecured phones to be held over secret briefing documents

-Continues to use an unsecured personal phone

-Refused to divest himself in any meaningful way from his worldwide business holdings and is likely in direct violation of the terms of his lease for the DC hotel

-Forgot to mention Jews in a holocaust remembrance

-Kept on as National Security Advisor a man who illegally spoke to Russian diplomats about sanctions against Russia for tampering in the US election and lied about it, despite clear warnings weeks ago that Flynn had lied and was susceptible to blackmail.

-Used the office of the President to advertise his daughter's failing clothing line

-Repeats unsupported and unsupportable lies about millions of votes being illegally cast

-Rushed out a poorly written and extremely poorly implemented ban on travel from seven majority Muslim nations which was halted by the courts after causing mass chaos

 

Probably forgetting a bunch, too. Been an interesting first 24 days.

 

e: -Appointed his white nationalist chief advisor to the National Security Council without realizing it and was pissed off about it later

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 09:07 AM)
Fun things that have happened in the last 24 days:

 

-Started off day 2 of his Presidency melting down about crowd sizes

-Appointed and got confirmed to a Cabinet-level secretaryship a key PAC donor who showed very little understanding of the department she's now running and had ethical and financial disclosure issues (DeVos)

-Appointed and got confirmed to Attorney General a man who was racist enough for a 1980's Republican Senate to reject him and who made his first official action to rescind transgendered protections

-Approved a badly botched raid that resulted in the death of a Navy SEAL, an 8 year old American girl, and over two dozen civilians and the loss of a multi-million dollar aircraft while failing to accomplish its main objective. It also led to Yemen refusing continued special operations actions.

-Lost an entire department of senior international diplomacy personnel to mass resignations; State is now headed by a curiously Russian-friendly former oil company CEO who advocated against Russian sanctions in the past.

-Crashed a wedding with the Prime Minister of Japan at his private golf club

-Discussed military intelligence surrounding an emergent situation with North Korea in front of a crowd of unvetted civilians and foreign nationals

-Allowed unsecured phones to be held over secret briefing documents

-Continues to use an unsecured personal phone

-Refused to divest himself in any meaningful way from his worldwide business holdings and is likely in direct violation of the terms of his lease for the DC hotel

-Forgot to mention Jews in a holocaust remembrance

-Kept on as National Security Advisor a man who illegally spoke to Russian diplomats about sanctions against Russia for tampering in the US election and lied about it, despite clear warnings weeks ago that Flynn had lied and was susceptible to blackmail.

-Used the office of the President to advertise his daughter's failing clothing line

-Repeats unsupported and unsupportable lies about millions of votes being illegally cast

-Rushed out a poorly written and extremely poorly implemented ban on travel from seven majority Muslim nations which was halted by the courts after causing mass chaos

 

Probably forgetting a bunch, too. Been an interesting first 24 days.

 

-informed the american public that they will be paying for that wall that isnt needed

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I'm not sure I'd put Mnuchin as a tier 1 threat. His confirmation hearings actually showed a stable, well-informed person, which stood out like crazy.

 

More, he just seems like standard Republican fare. That's not to say that can't have huge consequences, we've seen that, but when you are sitting next to the clown car of serial domestic abusers, ethics violators and idiots, standard fodder seems like a huge improvement.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 09:05 AM)
For his extreme views, but all indications are he's still not very close to Trump and wasn't for the majority of the general election campaign, either.

 

That said, he's the key bridge between the White House and Congress right now.

 

This asshole went in and confirmed Devos, he lied to the public on behalf of Flynn, if Trump should manage to get impeached then Pence is in charge. This is tier 1

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Rep. Jason "EMAILS EMAILS BENGHAZI BENGHAZI" Chaffetz sees no reason to investigate why a Russian stooge who broke the law was the National Security Advisor privy to all sorts of highly classified intelligence despite the Justice department warning the White House that he was compromised.

 

Seems like it'd be important to know what the White House knew and when?

 

Jamie DupreeVerified account

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Rep Jason Chaffetz R-UT tells reporters there's no need to further probe Flynn. "It’s taking care of itself"

6:51 AM - 14 Feb 2017

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 09:27 AM)
Rep. Jason "EMAILS EMAILS BENGHAZI BENGHAZI" Chaffetz sees no reason to investigate why a Russian stooge who broke the law was the National Security Advisor privy to all sorts of highly classified intelligence despite the Justice department warning the White House that he was compromised.

 

Seems like it'd be important to know what the White House knew and when?

 

 

Still too busy accusing Dems of paying protestors and bringing busloads in from out of state (in reality, just one confirmed AZ couple).

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This article from WaPo is pretty amazing/crazy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/uph...m=.602ac0c9c74f

 

The effect of cable news coverage/SNL on the president is so crazy, but crazier are the stories of aides shuffling around personalities trying to gain favor. While Trump himself seems to be set to chaos mode all the time, it is more than a little worrying what this looks like in an actual crisis.

 

Sure, he can fight back against narratives when it seems he's sinking, but what happens when a part of the country is about to go under water. What do we get then.

 

Staffers buzz privately about who is up and who is down, with many eagerly gossiping about which poor colleague gets an unflattering portrayal on NBC’s “Saturday Night Live.” For the past two weeks, it has been White House press secretary Sean Spicer. But aides said Trump was especially upset by a sketch that cast White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon as the Grim Reaper manipulating the president — who was ultimately relegated to a miniature desk, playing dolefully with an expandable toy.
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QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 09:46 AM)
This article from WaPo is pretty amazing/crazy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/uph...m=.602ac0c9c74f

 

The effect of cable news coverage/SNL on the president is so crazy, but crazier are the stories of aides shuffling around personalities trying to gain favor. While Trump himself seems to be set to chaos mode all the time, it is more than a little worrying what this looks like in an actual crisis.

 

Sure, he can fight back against narratives when it seems he's sinking, but what happens when a part of the country is about to go under water. What do we get then.

 

I forgot who it was, but back during the campaign, some of his top advisors said that the best way for them to communicate to Trump was through TV interviews since he's obsessed with media coverage.

 

Combine that with reports that he prefers his daily briefings in the forms of pictures and maps rather than multi-page written assessments, and you've painted a picture of a man who isn't exactly very intelligent or at least can't direct his mind to what actually matters.

 

 

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Ok last post before needing to go get some work done, credit where credit is due:

 

GOP Senate Intel Member: 'Exhaustive' investigation into Trump-Russia connections needed following Flynn resignation

 

Republican Sen. Roy Blunt, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, on Tuesday called for an exhaustive investigation into connections between President Donald Trump and Russia and said the Intelligence Committee should immediately speak with former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

 

Flynn resigned Monday evening amid revelations that he misled Vice President Mike Pence about conversations he had in December with Russia's ambassador to the US about sanctions placed on Russia. Pence had defended Flynn on television and denied he discussed sanctions after initial reports of the conversations.

 

"I think everybody needs that investigation to happen," Blunt said on KTRS radio. "And the Senate Intelligence Committee, again that I serve on, has been given the principle responsibility to look into this, and I think that we should look into it exhaustively so that at the end of this process, nobody wonders whether there was a stone left unturned, and shouldn't reach conclusions before you have the information that you need to have to make those conclusions."

 

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