greg775 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 03:09 PM) If? Then why haven't they started formal impeachment proceedings? Get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) Then why haven't they started formal impeachment proceedings? Get on with it. Republicans control the house, only they can start impeachment proceedings. So basically youll have to vote Democrat in the next election if you want any accountability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 01:39 PM) Then why haven't they started formal impeachment proceedings? Get on with it. The republicans control both the House and Senate so there's almost no chance that they'd initiate it. How do you not know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I like that greg's post is literally one post after a Republican Senator openly asks why he would ever investigate a fellow Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hallie Jackson is reporting VP did not know of Flynn's lies until last Thursday, the day before the WaPo article. Sounds organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 01:46 PM) I like that greg's post is literally one post after a Republican Senator openly asks why he would ever investigate a fellow Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/rus...ship/index.html Now Russia is deliberately provoking us in multiple places....so you've got that, Iran and North Korea with no real answers and not much of a national security apparatus in place. Wonder if Tillerson still wants that Secretary of State gig after this past 72 hours? http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/14/media/whit...ions/index.html How the Trump admin sidesteps tough questions http://finance.yahoo.com/news/recent-trump...-085726426.html More ethics/emoluments clause issues with Trump trademarks in China http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/14/michael-fly...y-response.html The scandal was "not even paranoia, it's something immeasurably worse," said a Facebook post by Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the foreign affairs committee in the upper chamber of the Russian parliament. "Either Trump hasn't found the necessary independence and he's been driven into a corner... or russophobia has permeated the new administration from top to bottom," he added. Alexey Pushkov, a senator with the United Russia party, which supports President Vladimir Putin, said Flynn was "forced to go" because of "paranoia." Pushkov also labeled the incident a "witch hunt." While the Kremlin's supporters piled in, the government itself remained neutral. Putin's spokesman, Dmitri Peskov, told state-run news agencies that the matter was "none of our business." https://mobile.twitter.com/philippereines/s...356816609116160 What goes around COMETS around...Flynns getting trolled about possible pizza jobs in their futures Edited February 14, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Here's the thought that, sometimes literally, keeps me up at night. Trump is at the very least incredibly self-involved, and very possible an actual narcissist. He thinks he can go into office and make sweeping changes to fix everything. As everyone who has known him that isn't in his inner circle has explained, he has a real need for adoration. He goes into office on a high, and quickly realizes that he can't get much actually done. He gets bored (which we are already hearing), and frustrated (see: Twitter). He's an executive and a control freak, so he looks for what he actually can control. What can the President do, pretty much unfettered by other branches of government? Military action. Not an all-out war, but a quick action that falls under his CinC authorities. I would bet a small fortune that he's mentally scanning the world right now for an excuse to swing the bat with that big military, in order to look tough and in control without having to deal with that messy thing called running a Republic. Literally, he's looking for a reason to kill a bunch of people in order to soothe his enormous and wounded ego. What if he chooses Iran? Or North Korea? And what spiral into a world war occurs when he does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 NYT has updated its story about how the FBI had interviewed Flynn in the first few days, to now say those investigators do not believe he was "entirely forthcoming" https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/po...t.co/mHDa9igK6v While this is interesting, I'm not sure what this democracy looks like with this FBI that leaks out all details of ongoing investigations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 04:38 PM) NYT has updated its story about how the FBI had interviewed Flynn in the first few days, to now say those investigators do not believe he was "entirely forthcoming" https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/po...t.co/mHDa9igK6v While this is interesting, I'm not sure what this democracy looks like with this FBI that leaks out all details of ongoing investigations. What?!? Comey told us all that the FBI doesn't not discuss details of ongoing investigations. A month after he did just that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'm skeptical of this report, not because I don't think it's true, but because of how often NYT went out with raw unconfirmed details in the election with the FBI and Clinton (and had to walk back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) Here's the thought that, sometimes literally, keeps me up at night. Trump is at the very least incredibly self-involved, and very possible an actual narcissist. He thinks he can go into office and make sweeping changes to fix everything. As everyone who has known him that isn't in his inner circle has explained, he has a real need for adoration. He goes into office on a high, and quickly realizes that he can't get much actually done. He gets bored (which we are already hearing), and frustrated (see: Twitter). He's an executive and a control freak, so he looks for what he actually can control. What can the President do, pretty much unfettered by other branches of government? Military action. Not an all-out war, but a quick action that falls under his CinC authorities. I would bet a small fortune that he's mentally scanning the world right now for an excuse to swing the bat with that big military, in order to look tough and in control without having to deal with that messy thing called running a Republic. Literally, he's looking for a reason to kill a bunch of people in order to soothe his enormous and wounded ego. What if he chooses Iran? Or North Korea? And what spiral into a world war occurs when he does it? Yes, military action under Trump has been my biggest fear all along. I hoped he would be disinterested. I think Mattis is probably the best in his admin, but still think odds of war with Iran are very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 04:51 PM) Yes, military action under Trump has been my biggest fear all along. I hoped he would be disinterested. I think Mattis is probably the best in his admin, but still think odds of war with Iran are very high. I hoped for the same with Mattis, but the story that came out about the Yemen raid was that he was one of the ones who goaded Trump into approving it by saying Obama was too weak to approve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Who here is deathly afraid of the future of our country right now? The world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) Here's the thought that, sometimes literally, keeps me up at night. Trump is at the very least incredibly self-involved, and very possible an actual narcissist. He thinks he can go into office and make sweeping changes to fix everything. As everyone who has known him that isn't in his inner circle has explained, he has a real need for adoration. He goes into office on a high, and quickly realizes that he can't get much actually done. He gets bored (which we are already hearing), and frustrated (see: Twitter). He's an executive and a control freak, so he looks for what he actually can control. What can the President do, pretty much unfettered by other branches of government? Military action. Not an all-out war, but a quick action that falls under his CinC authorities. I would bet a small fortune that he's mentally scanning the world right now for an excuse to swing the bat with that big military, in order to look tough and in control without having to deal with that messy thing called running a Republic. Literally, he's looking for a reason to kill a bunch of people in order to soothe his enormous and wounded ego. What if he chooses Iran? Or North Korea? And what spiral into a world war occurs when he does it? I optimistically have visions of a military coup where some top officials just say "f*** this, he is crazy" and they refuse to take those orders if he really gets out of hand with a military strike. I've probably watched too many movies though so I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 https://twitter.com/waysmeanscmte/status/831539930434240512 By a vote of 23-15, Republicans just voted to not request President Trump's tax returns from the Treasury Department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 07:31 PM) https://twitter.com/waysmeanscmte/status/831539930434240512 15 Republicans voted to see them? Baby steps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 07:47 PM) 15 Republicans voted to see them? Baby steps... No it was a party line vote. That was the fifteen Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Trump admin arrests its first DREAMer. Expect more immigration crackdowns in the future. https://t.co/IDbXnbG0Hq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 06:50 PM) Drumpf admin arrests its first DREAMer. Expect more immigration crackdowns in the future. https://t.co/IDbXnbG0Hq Awesome! That's one less coal mining job that illegals can claim. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 "WASHINGTON — Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/polit...p-news&_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 10:41 PM) Does he make it a full year in office? Serious question. He shouldn't, but McConnell et al are all bought and paid for, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 09:41 PM) Does he make it a full year in office? Serious question. I guess it'll come down to how many republicans would rather work with a President Pence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Came here to post that nyt article, also this House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) said Tuesday that those who leaked the contents of former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s phone calls “belong in jail.” “That’s nine leakers that all belong in jail,” Nunes said. “Those nine people broke the law, clearly, by leaking classified information to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 It's very ironic that Hillary's email server was ultimately a threat to democracy, just not in the way they implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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