President Donald Trump: The Thread

[Big Hurtin]

Under Trump, immigrant tech workers can't even go to their local Applebee's without fearing they will be mistaken for Muslims and be shot dead.

 

American Carnage.

To be fair, that's doing them a favor.

 

[caulfield12]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option...p;jumival=18545

 

Ralph Nader on Trump's speech

 

 

 

PAUL JAY: --To some extent people that aren't that familiar with these agencies, it sounds a bit like alphabet soup. Can you give some examples of what they do and how it might affect people's lives if they're weakened?

 

RALPH NADER: Yeah, well you know, thousands of babies are born with flippers for legs and arms in Europe because they didn't have regulation of a sedative, years ago, that was taken by pregnant women. Well, our Food and Drug Administration under the leadership of Dr. Kelsey blocked it. And so, there were no babies born with flippers for legs because--

 

PAUL JAY: --This is thalidomide, is it?

 

RALPH NADER: Yeah, that was thalidomide. The Auto Safety Agency has presided with some irregular interruptions with a massive decline in fatalities and injuries on the road. The curve has gone up in the last two years, but according to Clarence Detlaw(?) of the Center for Auto Safety, 3.5 million deaths were averted because of the Federal role that started in 1966 under Lyndon Johnson, in highway vehicle and driver Safety. 3.5 million-averted deaths and you can imagine how many more injuries were averted. The American people have less lead in their blood because tetraethol(?) lead was taken off the market from gasoline by the Environmental Protection Agency. We have more efficient motor vehicles in terms of gas mileage, nothing like I would have liked, but still that has saved billions and billions of dollars. We have the Consumer Financial Protection Board that the Republicans and Trump seem to want to abolish that has brought back $11.5 billion and is cracking down on financial fraud against students with loans, fraud against mortgage shenanigans, and other such corporate violations. And the story goes on and on. Now, none of these Federal regulatory agencies besieged by corporate lobbyists and often run by people from the corporations they're supposed to regulate, have done what I would like done. But can you imagine life without them? And those are the budgets he wants to cut, so he can continue bloating the Pentagon budget which is the only agency in the country at the Federal level that is not auditable. It is violating a 1990 Federal law that went into effect in 1992 that requires them to provide auditable data to the Government Accountability Office of the US Congress. Every other agency does that. Every other Department does that, but the biggest budget of all doesn't do that. And he wants to give them more money. I mean, this is a Pentagon budget that loses billions of dollars in the Air Force spare parts which they buy again because they can't locate them in the far-flung warehouses around the world. This is a Pentagon budget that admits to the loss, unaccountably of $9 billion in the first few months of the criminal invasion of Iraq by George W. Bush and Dick Chaney. That's $9 billion with a "B", and he wants to give them more money. The hapless Democratic Party, of course, won't point this out, but your reporter, Tom Hedges has written about the not auditable Pentagon budget. But unfortunately, the rest of the mainstream press is not picking it up. So, you can have these crazy contradictions and it's what he doesn't mention, for example, he talks about terrorism, and a few homicides by illegal immigrants, he doesn't talk about the immigrants who are in retail stores in the inner city who have been slain by criminals who were born in the US throughout the country. He doesn't mention that at all but what he ALSO doesn't mention is that 5,000 Americans a week are dying because of mishaps that are preventable in hospitals. Who says so -- last March, Johns Hopkins University Medical School put it out -- it's 250,000 Americans dying every year through preventable causes, hospital-induced infections, hospital malpractice, hospital errors, bad combinations of pharmaceuticals, and he doesn't even mention it. That's 5,000 a week, 800 a day and the doctors who did this study said that was the minimum, conservative figure. That is probably much higher if they took clinics into account. And then he talks about abolishing Obamacare, and he doesn't mention that the government he's heading is being defrauded $60 billion a year, Medicare's being defrauded by corporate and other crooks in the healthcare industry. He doesn't even mention that. He doesn't mention that over $340 billion this year will be drained away through computerized billing fraud and abuse in the provision of healthcare sales. $340 billion according to the applied mathematician expert Professor Malcolm Sparrow at Harvard University and an earlier study by the Government Accountability Office. So, what we have here is an orchestrated speech by Donald Trump and I think they really worked to make sure there was no low level booing, as has often occurred, in State of the Union speeches, and they really worked on just massive applause that, you know, when you hear it just on the radio, it just seems orchestrated and largely exaggerated. But of course, you know, his easily-bruised ego required that kind of calming(?), that kind of support and I think the Republicans in the Congress basically agreed to it because they were hell-bent on not having any division before this big national audience -- that they wanted to show that there was unity. But actuall

Edited March 2, 2017 by caulfield12

[RockRaines]

Regardless of this being early in his presidency, the impression that I get is "all talk and no action." Prove yourself or shut up Mr. Populist.

Yeah but this time he didn't sound like a moron. Presidential.

[RockRaines]

Don't you naysayers at least LOVE the fact Trump is optimistic and a huge supporter of our great nation?? The man is an American through and through and doesn't apologize like some PC people always do. I mean isn't that SOMETHING to be optimistic about?? Don't you get sick of negativity all the time?

 

p.s. I realize this is coming from a guy who is so so pessimistic about the Sox. I guess I need to work on that.

This response is a nice microcosm of the problem. People actually see it this way.

[Kyyle23]

Sessions lied to congress about contact with the Russians during Trumps campaign. Say it ain't so!

[Quin]

“I’m not aware of any of those activities,” he responded. He added: “I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”

 

Are hearings under oath? If so, Sessions committed perjury, right?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nation...m=.f44c8b47ec94

[caulfield12]

The man is an American through and through

 

 

That's the current fault line in American politics...despite Obama's 60-65% job approval/popularity ratings when he left the White House, there was the perception:

 

1) He wasn't patriotic and didn't wear his American flag lapel pin proudly enough

2) He apologized too much for American Exceptionalism and preferred to reach out to Islamic-majority countries more than Israel (largely this was to compensate for the shift in the other direction for 8 years under Bush)

3) That his "cool aloofness" was yet another indicator of the Democratic Party's problem attracting "average" folks between the two coastal regions of the country, the meatloaf/steak & potatoes crowd

4) Wait...he wasn't even born in America!!!

5) Obama and the Dems were globalists/corporatists who wanted to sell out the country to George Soros/Wall Street and take away everything unique and distinctive that makes America and "The American Dream" such a great symbol for the world

 

 

Listening to C-SPAN there really is that 20-25% that strongly believes that Obama was the "lousiest" president in American history. It's really hard to believe that they could be so righteous in their calls for positivism now (especially due to ONE SPEECH) after watching everything that transpired with GOP obstructionism over the last 8 years. Even forgetting about the "dark/pessimistic" Trump phenomenon, the idea that Democrats now owe it to the country to work together with the president...well, that's just rich. Didn't the GOP owe it to the country to consider Merrick Garland's Supreme Court nomination and work with the Dems 7-8 years ago to come up with a better version of ACA...a solution they still don't have nearly a decade later? Now it's the fault of the Dems for not passing a better law, when nobody on the other side of the aisle even attempted to compromise?

Edited March 2, 2017 by caulfield12

[Steve9347]

Sessions lied to congress about contact with the Russians during Trumps campaign. Say it ain't so!

I can't imagine he'll hold the position At this time next week. Soon enough the dots will connect directly to the orange one and this'll be over.

[bmags]

How could he possibly think that wouldn't come out?

[Big Hurtin]

How could he possibly think that wouldn't come out?

Their hubris knows no bounds. Repeat "fake news" enough, and people will take it as fact. (gullible people, but those are in abundance)

[bmags]

I wonder if Ryan will need more info to know whether to investigate this

[BigSqwert]

I think greg meant to start a USSR! USSR! chant.

[caulfield12]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-central-mist...-100052871.html

Forget Trump's speech, look at his budget.

 

 

 

Of course, Sessions/Russia Talk is about to take over again for the next week or so.

[brett05]

“I’m not aware of any of those activities,” he responded. He added: “I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”

 

Are hearings under oath? If so, Sessions committed perjury, right?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nation...m=.f44c8b47ec94

He spoke truthfully as far as anyone can see. He was asked if he spoke with the Russians specifically about the campaign. He answered no. It was not an open ended question.

[Middle Buffalo]

I killed all my posts since they were so offensive. I'll shut up about Trump since it causes so much consternation.

Keep posting your opinions. There's nothing offensive about your optimism. I doubt you'd be as optimistic if HC had given the EXACT speech Trump just gave, but like any other post in this (or any) thread, if people don't agree, they can respond or ignore.

 

Don't let them bully you out of here. It would be an affront to our First Lady's anti-bullying platform.

[StrangeSox]

He spoke truthfully as far as anyone can see. He was asked if he spoke with the Russians specifically about the campaign. He answered no. It was not an open ended question.

 

Stop lying.

 

At his Jan. 10 Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing, Sessions was asked by Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) what he would do if he learned of any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of the 2016 campaign.

 

“I’m not aware of any of those activities,” he responded. He added: “I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”

 

And here's the video of the question from Franken.

 

https://twitter.com/JamieOGrady/status/8371...src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

He was asked if anyone from Trump's campaign had contact with Russia during the campaign, and he lied by refusing to disclose that he himself had had contact with the Russians.

[StrangeSox]

Speaking of Sessions being predictably awful, he has dismissed the DoJ's reports on police abuse without even having read them. There's a very good reason that Republicans in the 1980's recognized Sessions as too racist to hold a federal judicial position, and he's doing nothing to change his ways in the following 30 years.

 

He's also dropped the DoJ's challenge of Texas Republicans' race-based voter ID law

 

 

Edited March 2, 2017 by StrangeSox

[bmags]

Stop lying.

 

 

 

And here's the video of the question from Franken.

 

https://twitter.com/JamieOGrady/status/8371...src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

He was asked if anyone from Trump's campaign had contact with Russia during the campaign, and he lied by refusing to disclose that he himself had had contact with the Russians.

 

Exactly, he could get away with that interpretation in Sen Leahys questionnaire, but this one did not specify about the campaign nor did he even ask Sessions directly. Sessions went out of his way to lie. And an odd thing to lie about! It is totally normal for high ranking Senators to meet with Ambassadors. He lied...Flynn lied...Cohen has lied. Sure is weird!

[StrangeSox]

Exactly, he could get away with that interpretation in Sen Leahys questionnaire, but this one did not specify about the campaign nor did he even ask Sessions directly. Sessions went out of his way to lie. And an odd thing to lie about! It is totally normal for high ranking Senators to meet with Ambassadors. He lied...Flynn lied...Cohen has lied. Sure is weird!

 

Credit to Lindsay Graham for calling on Sessions to recuse himself from any DoJ investigation of the Trump campaign's/administration's ties with Russia. He is not impartial and clearly cannot be trusted to be honest with the public.

[caulfield12]

He was the ONLY member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to meet with the Russian ambassador, period...and not just once, BUT TWICE.

 

Flynn

Manafort

Cohen

Sessions

Tillerson

 

Wilbur Ross

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/1...l-ties-russians

 

Donald Jr. and Eric Trump

However, he and his family have had many dealings in Russia and with Russian émigrés elsewhere.

 

Donald Trump Jr., for example, was a keynote speaker at a Moscow real estate conference in 2008.

 

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump Jr. said during his speech, according to reports from the time. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

 

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-g...l#storylink=cpy

Edited March 2, 2017 by caulfield12

[Steve9347]

Stop lying.

 

 

 

And here's the video of the question from Franken.

 

https://twitter.com/JamieOGrady/status/8371...src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

He was asked if anyone from Trump's campaign had contact with Russia during the campaign, and he lied by refusing to disclose that he himself had had contact with the Russians.

that'll be it for brett05 for a week and then he'll come back in here with more lies.

 

Wow, the GOP really has done a number on folks.

[StrangeSox]

Here's Sessions explaining why it's very important to prosecute people for perjury, a thing he committed in his confirmation hearings:

 

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/837155176116973568

 

e: "I did not have international relations with that country."

Edited March 2, 2017 by StrangeSox

[Steve9347]

Here's Sessions explaining why it's very important to prosecute people for perjury, a thing he committed in his confirmation hearings:

 

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/837155176116973568

Get this scumbag the f*** out of here.

[StrangeSox]

He was the ONLY member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to meet with the Russian ambassador, period...and not just once, BUT TWICE.

 

Flynn

Manafort

Cohen

Sessions

Tillerson

 

Wilbur Ross

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/1...l-ties-russians

 

Donald Jr. and Eric Trump

However, he and his family have had many dealings in Russia and with Russian émigrés elsewhere.

 

Donald Trump Jr., for example, was a keynote speaker at a Moscow real estate conference in 2008.

 

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump Jr. said during his speech, according to reports from the time. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

 

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-g...l#storylink=cpy

 

You left out Carter Page, who was brought to the Trump campaign by Sessions.

[StrangeSox]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/to...m=.b469e1808df3

 

McCarthy and Chaffetz calling on Sessions to recuse himself from Russia investigation.