President Donald Trump: The Thread

[StrangeSox]

No, sorry, it's more like 20% of women. But 40-50% of them didn't even care enough to get up and vote.

40-50% of the people protesting today didn't vote? Source?

[caulfield12]

40-50% of the people protesting today didn't vote? Source?

 

I'm sure he was talking about the general...or extrapolating those averages onto today, but that's unlikely since most typical activists don't sit out elections.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bergdahl-case-pr...-153616764.html

Bergdahl desertion case presents early test of tolerance for prejudicial Trump rhetoric

[StrangeSox]

First full day and your presidency is already a trending joke.

 

#spicerfacts

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/SpicerFacts?src=hash

 

Even the Dallas Stars are getting in on the act

 

https://twitter.com/unlikelyfanatic/status/...src=twsrc%5Etfw

Edited January 22, 2017 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

Trump also probably violated the presidential records act by deleting a tweet. Violating the Constitution from the moment he was sworn in and the law on his first full day. Off to a fantastic start.

[caulfield12]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-webs...-221241308.html

 

"Cult of personality" settling in as WH website hails and hails the Chief

[RockRaines]

No, sorry, it's more like 20% of women. But 40-50% of them didn't even care enough to get up and vote.

I'm not sure it's entirely relevant. Women would look for equal rights under any president. It's sad that it's still an issue.

[caulfield12]

I'm not sure it's entirely relevant. Women would look for equal rights under any president. It's sad that it's still an issue.

 

http://ew.com/books/2017/01/17/ivanka-trum...e-may-2017/amp/

Don't worry. Ivanka is on the case. Her new book will provide simple yet exquisite (actor James Woods' apt description) solutions to all the working women of America.

 

Best of all, the book advance and proceeds from sales are all going to charity!!! Act now, and you can get a machine-autographed copy, printed in the good 'ol USA.

 

[LittleHurt05]

I'm not sure it's entirely relevant. Women would look for equal rights under any president. It's sad that it's still an issue.

 

It's not relevant but it's amusing. The majority of white women voted for Trump yet here they are so outraged.

[StrangeSox]

It's not relevant but it's amusing. The majority of white women voted for Trump yet here they are so outraged.

 

for some reason you keep assuming that people who went to the largest protest in US history, which was organized by women and primarily focused on a rejection of Trump, either didn't vote or voted for Trump. The numbers you brought up multiple times in this thread aren't really relevant beyond trying to make a smuggo point that doesn't really work.

[caulfield12]

First, it describes a reality that some but not most Americans perceive. As everyone who’s written about the economy in this Second Gilded Age, including me, has noted, far too many people are displaced, left behind, shortchanged, and dead-ended by the effects of technology and finance. That’s the human and economic challenge of this economic era, and it’s especially true for older people, less educated people, and those in some majority-white Appalachian and Rust Belt-locales where businesses have been closing rather than opening.

 

But for most Americans, the past few years have represented economic progress rather than decline. (Employment; recently median-wage levels; inflation; financials; energy-production; manufacturing; trend in deficits; emissions; etc.) I’ll save the full “some-vs-most” arguments for another day but will cite these two illustrations: the strong popular-vote majority for what was essentially a continuation of current economic policies; and the classic Politico headline from the GOP convention. It was “GOP Delegates Say Economy Is Terrible—Except Where They Live.” Again, there’s more to say about these figures. But as the dominant theme in the speech, it represents pure rallying the base rather than reaching beyond.

 

 

James Fallows, The Atlantic

 

[caulfield12]

for some reason you keep assuming that people who went to the largest protest in US history, which was organized by women and primarily focused on a rejection of Trump, either didn't vote or voted for Trump. The numbers you brought up multiple times in this thread aren't really relevant beyond trying to make a smuggo point that doesn't really work.

 

 

Trump did lose the female vote big amongst minority voters — 94 percent of black women voted for Clinton, as did 68 percent of Latino women, according to exit poll data. But nearly twice as many white women without college degrees voted for Trump than for Hillary, and of college-educated white women Hillary won by only a narrow margin — 51 percent supported Hillary, compared to 45 percent who supported Trump. Overall, 53 percent of white women voted for Trump, alongside 58 percent of white men who did so as well.

 

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld...illary-clinton/

 

I'm going to guess 75-80% of that crowd on the Mall was college-educated...if for no other reason than those with college degrees typically have much higher incomes and the ability to finance such a trip to DC.

 

It's a good starting point for the Democratic version of the Tea Party to have 1 million in Washington, NYC and Chicago alone.

[caulfield12]

for some reason you keep assuming that people who went to the largest protest in US history, which was organized by women and primarily focused on a rejection of Trump, either didn't vote or voted for Trump. The numbers you brought up multiple times in this thread aren't really relevant beyond trying to make a smuggo point that doesn't really work.

 

 

Trump did lose the female vote big amongst minority voters — 94 percent of black women voted for Clinton, as did 68 percent of Latino women, according to exit poll data. But nearly twice as many white women without college degrees voted for Trump than for Hillary, and of college-educated white women Hillary won by only a narrow margin — 51 percent supported Hillary, compared to 45 percent who supported Trump. Overall, 53 percent of white women voted for Trump, alongside 58 percent of white men who did so as well.

 

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld...illary-clinton/

 

I'm going to guess 75-80% of that crowd on the Mall was college-educated...if for no other reason than those with college degrees typically have much higher incomes and the ability to finance such a trip to DC.

 

It's a good starting point for the Democratic version of the Tea Party to have 1 million in Washington, NYC and Chicago alone.

[BigSqwert]

A round trip bus ride from Louisville to DC for the march was $160.

[StrangeSox]

McCain and Graham confirmed they're voting for Tillerson, so he's in.

[StrangeSox]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mi...a-a7540476.html

 

[pettie4sox]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mi...a-a7540476.html

 

 

Not sure why Trump thinks this is necessary.

[Quin]

McCain and Graham confirmed they're voting for Tillerson, so he's in.

 

f***.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mi...a-a7540476.html

 

 

Double f***.

[StrangeSox]

[Dick Allen]

Trump is more concerned about TV ratings. He is very proud of his nearly 31 million viewers. Mention it was 10 million more than 2013, which the second term always has a drop off. So,Rome should tell him Obama had 38 million viewers his first term and people actually showed up in DC for the inauguration not o protest.

[LittleHurt05]

for some reason you keep assuming that people who went to the largest protest in US history, which was organized by women and primarily focused on a rejection of Trump, either didn't vote or voted for Trump. The numbers you brought up multiple times in this thread aren't really relevant beyond trying to make a smuggo point that doesn't really work.

 

Sorry I find the Trump voting demographics interesting, instead of just assuming there are 63 million toothless male white supremacists out there.

[Dick Allen]

Sorry I find the Trump voting demographics interesting, instead of just assuming there are 63 million toothless male white supremacists out there.

It is interesting, but I would think very few of the women at the protest voted for him. I think the vast majority of the women in the demographic that voted for Trump, didn't participate, although I am sure there were some.

[StrangeSox]

Sorry I find the Trump voting demographics interesting, instead of just assuming there are 63 million toothless male white supremacists out there.

Trying to bring up the demographics of people who voted for Trump as some sort of counter to the historical protests doesn't even make sense, though. You were trying to imply that there was some sort of overlap between people yesterday and people who didn't vote or voted for Trump. It's just nonsense.

[RockRaines]

It is interesting, but I would think very few of the women at the protest voted for him. I think the vast majority of the women in the demographic that voted for Trump, didn't participate, although I am sure there were some.

I'd assume whoever women voted for is pretty irrelevant when talking about their desire for equal rights.

[Dick Allen]

So Kellyanne used the term alternative facts for Spicer's press conference yesterday. When pressed on it, she went to GOP talking points, never answering and then calling out some bad info the press gave about a bust being removed. That she called a lie, not an alternate fact. And then went on about how unfair the press is to the new administration.

 

I just wonder how long this can go on.

[Soxbadger]

So Kellyanne used the term alternative facts for Spicer's press conference yesterday. When pressed on it, she went to GOP talking points, never answering and then calling out some bad info the press gave about a bust being removed. That she called a lie, not an alternate fact. And then went on about how unfair the press is to the new administration.

 

I just wonder how long this can go on.

 

Unfortunately I dont see any way to break the cycle. Approximately 500 newspapers endorsed Clinton, approximately 27 endorsed Trump. A good portion of America just no longer accepts "facts". Yesterday on this board there was an argument about whether or not Clinton "won" the popular vote.

 

Historically speaking this has happened before. After the fall of Rome, European society entered the "Dark Ages." Its starting to appear that we may be heading down that road. Otherwise why attack Science, etc? Even if you disagree with global warming, our society should still be investing money to determine the facts. We shouldnt just say "The Pope said the Earth is the center of the Universe, so it must be true."

 

The idea of "alternate facts" is pretty scary.

Edited January 22, 2017 by Soxbadger