RockRaines Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 09:17 PM) Yeah that's the conservative excuse going around, but it was handled particularly poorly in this case. Like I said, replacing attorneys isn't uncommon, but there are still good and bad ways to handle things and this was not handled well. But also, what about all of his other posts? Why is he so far behind? The ineptitude of this administration is more glaring by the day. I've worked for many startup companies that made changes at the top prior to be acquired or sold, and it literally feels like the USA is about to be sold to IBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 It's kinda funny that if you search for Clinton firing US attorneys, a majority of the links are to conservative media using the same excuse back when Bush was firing some AG's in his second term in an unusual manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 08:26 PM) It cant be all of them though.... Or maybe I have too much faith in humanity The Trump voters I know don't like him at all but thanks to the two party system, it was him or a Clinton. The news just shows the poor Midwest voters but he won thanks to millions of rich, educated men and women who chose R over D, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Didn't he underperform with college educated whites but drove turnout among non college whites bigly? Clinton miscalculated by trying to peel off "moderate" "reasonable" suburban and urban Republicans for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 09:38 PM) The Trump voters I know don't like him at all but thanks to the two party system, it was him or a Clinton. The news just shows the poor Midwest voters but he won thanks to millions of rich, educated men and women who chose R over D, simple as that. I guess I'm hoping thats the case and they arent all zealots that think hes ultra successful. I assume the elderly are going to hate him after the healthcare crap. Maybe some of the poor will realize the ol mill isnt coming back eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Oh and Michael Flynn literally registered retroactively as a foreign agent and claims that he informed the Trump team of this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fly...m=.4b96f047d3ec Edited March 11, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/03...nski-ac-dnt.cnn Jared Kushner is basically acting as de facto Secretary of State...with Tillerson out of the loop and press pool not even allowed to accompany him to China https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the...m=.cd2c64f7062d The Winning Argument Dems Have Against Trump Edited March 11, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) Didn't he underperform with college educated whites but drove turnout among non college whites bigly? Clinton miscalculated by trying to peel off "moderate" "reasonable" suburban and urban Republicans for sure though. Yes I think I heard this is the first time in history educated people voted Democrat. Could be wrong but that would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Ha set myself up for that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...-chicago-214895 The (role playing) video game trying to stanch the carnage in Chicago http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/11/us/muslim-fl...fire/index.html Another attack on immigrants confused for being Muslim The fire at the Met Mart in Port St. Lucie was quickly put out Friday morning and did not cause much damage, Mascara said. The store was closed and protected by security shutters. According to CNN affiliate WPEC, Lloyd told investigators he tried to buy a bottle of Tropicana orange pineapple juice at the store a few days ago but was told they didn't have any. He was also upset because he assumed the store employee was Muslim, WPEC said, citing the investigative report. Lloyd told investigators he planned to burn the building because he "was doing his part for America," WPEC said. When deputies arrived Friday morning and found the fire, a man in front of the store put his hands behind his back and told officers to "take me away," Mascara said. Edited March 12, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) https://www.yahoo.com/tv/snl-wants-sell-com...-054353817.html Wonder how long before the first defensive Trump tweet or Conway promo of how her Ivanka's real life perfume line has shot up to #1? Wouldn't be a surprise to see this exact product start selling well here in China, since so few know what the English word complicit even means...it will sound exotic and vaguely French. http://www.thewrap.com/snl-alec-baldwin-trump-space-aliens/ This one will get under his skin as well... http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/12/opinions/snl...llah/index.html CNN opinion piece on Complicit sketch Edited March 12, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 08:41 PM) Clinton fired ALL 93 US attorney's in 1993 right after taking office hardly anything new. https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/840657134744416257 Yea it's all the same nothing new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Did Clinton also have only one State Department position filled at this point...who essentially has been neutered already because other countries are learning to go to Jared Kushner instead? Can't imagine if the Clinton's did the same with Chelsea's husband, it would an impending international catastrophe of Biblical proportions. Edited March 12, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Bharara seems to be the biggest blunder as it sounds like Trump said he'd keep him on. Otherwise the only thing that makes this worrisome is Trump's snail pace at filling every single appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 12, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) It was reported in January that this was going to happen. This has now happened at least in the last five administrations. Not sure why it's a story to be in a tizzy about. It's normal to ask for the resignations. It's abnormal to make them effective immediately rather than in 30 days or so so that the positions can be filled or in the process of being filled. These are all Senate-confirmed positions, so the new guys can't just start tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Masseur Trump appointee who wanted to ‘exterminate’ Muslim ‘maggots’ dropped from Energy Department A massage therapist with no apparent experience of energy policy was terminated from the Department of Energy after it was revealed that he had a habit of making racially charged social media posts about Muslims and former President Barack Obama. After working as a paid operative for the Trump campaign in New Hampshire, Sid Bowdidge was hired as an "assistant" to Energy Secretary Rick Perry shortly after Inauguration Day, two employees at the nuclear weapons agency told BuzzFeed News on Friday. In another tweet linking to a news story about the San Bernardino terror attack, Bowdidge called Muslims "Scum suckling maggots of the world" and proposed to "exterminate them all." The "beachhead team" apparently includes far-right conspiracy theorists, dozens of lobbyists and former campaign staffers. Curtis Ellis, a blogger for right-wing website WorldNetDaily, was hired as a special assistant to the Labor Department secretary on Jan. 20. Ellis, who's known for relentlessly peddling the false claim that Obama wasn't born in the U.S., once penned a column arguing that Democrats have engaged in "ethnic cleansing" of the white working class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 12, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) It was reported in January that this was going to happen. This has now happened at least in the last five administrations. Not sure why it's a story to be in a tizzy about. Journalists gotta eat too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning...m=.5ec09a09e5c8 Trump supporters angered by "Resistance" radio network actually promoting Netflix's The Man In The High Castle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 01:50 PM) It's from The Morning Mix, which actually is a blog on the WP. As for the main Post, they've been going strong. One of two newspapers I'd say are safe - other being the Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Dont worry guys, Trump just came out and clarified that: Trump didnt mean "wire tapping" and that he didnt mean "Obama" did it. Hearing from Kellyanne that maybe Obama was using Trump's microwave to listen in. No word on whether Barron's large stuffed lion has been implicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 So Kellyanne started talking about spying microwaves, when questioned she went to Obamacare. Why do networks continue to put her on the air? Just say no thanks when she is offered. She will be defeated, get fired, and may start making sense after that. She used to have the exact same questions about Trump most of us would like answered truthfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 04:22 PM) I don't blame the networks for putting her on. She is most likely going to give a bat-s*** crazy soundbite that is played on repeat for the next 48 hours. Why the Trump campaign continues to trot her out there is a whole other story. So people are talking about her stupidity instead of anything of substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) If you're implying that numbers increasing means they're going strong, I'd think that's true for most outlets on both ends of the spectrum. Trump's campaign, election process and presidency has sent numbers through the roof. It's gone from general politics to a public interest. As far as going strong in terms of being an objective news source that's debatable at best. They have released a lot of stories based on "unnamed sources" and selectively edited material that have yet to be substantiated. They have yet address these things. The WP writes that Russia coordinated with Trump to leak a bunch of stuff on Russia. That's yet to be substantiated. James Clapper says it's not true. We now know the CIA can manipulate hacks to attribute them to people that didn't do them. When speaking towards whether these reports will be substantiated, they said "time will tell." Time has passed, still haven't had the information come to light. That's a pretty huge insinuation and they don't feel the need to make good on it. But as you said, they're going strong with the numbers push that unsubstantiated story brought them. Rabbit, I'm confused about your morality re: reporting. You are anti-anonymous leaks, but you are pro information being released via illegal means (hacking). Since even before the election, you have attacked the media for inaccurate reporting, but I haven't seen you address the pretty blatant falsehoods from the President (3-5M illegal votes in the election, Obama wiretapped the President, etc.). You jumped on the Wikileaks document dump and jumped to the conclusion that, because the CIA can manipulate hacks, therefore they must have initiated the hack of the DNC. And you haven't at any point asked why Wikileaks is only going after the Democrats and the US. It's not that Wikileaks isn't dropping real information, but it sure looks as though they are selectively deciding who gets hacked and what gets released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 05:14 PM) Rabbit, I'm confused about your morality re: reporting. You are anti-anonymous leaks, but you are pro information being released via illegal means (hacking). Since even before the election, you have attacked the media for inaccurate reporting, but I haven't seen you address the pretty blatant falsehoods from the President (3-5M illegal votes in the election, Obama wiretapped the President, etc.). You jumped on the Wikileaks document dump and jumped to the conclusion that, because the CIA can manipulate hacks, therefore they must have initiated the hack of the DNC. And you haven't at any point asked why Wikileaks is only going after the Democrats and the US. It's not that Wikileaks isn't dropping real information, but it sure looks as though they are selectively deciding who gets hacked and what gets released. If Wikileaks is anti-Democrats and pro-Republicans, I am curious why the leaks of of things like the Iraq War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 13, 2017 -> 05:19 PM) If Wikileaks is anti-Democrats and pro-Republicans, I am curious why the leaks of of things like the Iraq War? Six years is a long time. And six years ago, the Republican President didn't have worrying ties to Russia? If I wasn't clear, this isn't a Dem/Rep thing so much as a Russia thing. Over the last year, Wikileaks has released hacked info on the DNC, including social security numbers of donors, and in the immediate aftermath of news re: Russia's involvement in the hacking, released info that, to me anyway, looks intended to draw the inference that the CIA is framing the Russians. Their dumps in the last year seem pretty pro-Russia (which by extension would make them pro-Trump). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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