pettie4sox Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Awesome, Trump and his ilk are adding words to the dictionary now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/823210...src=twsrc%5Etfw KellyannePolls: "It's really time for [Trump] to put in his own security and intelligence community." What? @ThisWeekABC This is what Cheney did in the run-up to the Iraq war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/spectatorindex/s...139335734079488 UNITED STATES: Bill to withdraw the US from the United Nations has been submitted to Congress as the 'American Sovereignty Restoration Act' Ummmm is the International Spectator like The Onion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Something to keep in mind is that nonsense bills that go absolutely nowhere get introduced all the time. This bill has one sponsor. If it makes it to even the subcommittee level, then it's worth talking about. I can't imagine a majority of Republicans would want to give up our permanent seat on the security council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 It just shows how shockingly stupid some people in our govt are. Even if its only 1 person. The US is on the Security Council, the US can veto any UN resolution. Even if you hate everything the UN stands for, you would never give up your seat at the Security Council. That is, unless you dont even have a basic understanding of what the UN is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 11:47 AM) f***. Double f***. The common thread with most of those Cabinet members and Paul Ryan is adherence to the tenets of Ayn Rand's philosophy. And we wonder why the GOP gets labeled as selfish, or only motivated by individual greed or advancement rather than societal progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) Unfortunately I dont see any way to break the cycle. Approximately 500 newspapers endorsed Clinton, approximately 27 endorsed Trump. A good portion of America just no longer accepts "facts". Yesterday on this board there was an argument about whether or not Clinton "won" the popular vote. Historically speaking this has happened before. After the fall of Rome, European society entered the "Dark Ages." Its starting to appear that we may be heading down that road. Otherwise why attack Science, etc? Even if you disagree with global warming, our society should still be investing money to determine the facts. We shouldnt just say "The Pope said the Earth is the center of the Universe, so it must be true." The idea of "alternate facts" is pretty scary. Not to mention the biggest driver of American greatness and innovation/ingenuity is Silicon Valley the last two decades. The inaugural address could just as easily been aimed at those entrepreneurs as it was at the Washington establishment. Fwiw, Trump's immigration and trade policies are supported by exactly one person out there, Peter Thiel. That's why all the talk about California leaving the US isn't completely as far-fetched as it sounds. Highly unlikely, but...well, the electoral college doesn't do much for them, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 It is completely as far fetched as it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) So Kellyanne used the term alternative facts for Spicer's press conference yesterday. When pressed on it, she went to GOP talking points, never answering and then calling out some bad info the press gave about a bust being removed. That she called a lie, not an alternate fact. And then went on about how unfair the press is to the new administration. I just wonder how long this can go on. I watched that interview with Chuck Todd this morning in real time and just could not believe it was happening. We have entered the Twilight Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/st...m=.63ab73ecb38d The traditional way of reporting about the president is officially dead, Spicer already killed it. Maybe the entire press should just ignore him for a month and see what happens with nobody to fight with or antagonize? Fox News could still carry his press conferences live...since he wants a controlled media with no hostile questions like Russia or China. I think he would get bored eventually with nothing but sycophants and butt kissers around him, but probably am overestimating his humanity. Edited January 23, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Day 4 begins National Parks Service employees banned from using official twitter account https://www.yahoo.com/style/national-parks-...-172739369.html First conflict of interest lawsuit filed...with lots of huge legal names like Harvard's Laurence Tribe attached. This will likely be thrown out due to lack of standing. They're going to have to find a competing upper tier hotel in DC that's clearly losing business to Trump's and not afraid to stand up to him publicly. https://www.yahoo.com/news/ethics-lawyers-s...-051119236.html Trump's son Eric Trump, an executive vice president of the Trump Organization, told the Times on Sunday that the company had taken more steps than required by law to avoid any possible legal exposure, such as agreeing to donate any profits collected at Trump-owned hotels that come from foreign government guests to the U.S. Treasury. "This is purely harassment for political gain," Trump told the newspaper. According to Conway over the weekend, Trump tax returns will not be turned over despite 120,000+ petitioning on first day at new Trump WhiteHouse.gov website. Had promised an update or response on any issue/petition that gathered at least 100k online signatures or more. Has been a tradition for both candidates to do so going back to 1976. Edited January 23, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Mr. Trump grew increasingly angry on Inauguration Day after reading a series of Twitter messages pointing out that the size of his inaugural crowd did not rival that of Mr. Obama's in 2009. But he spent his Friday night in a whirlwind of celebration and affirmation. When he awoke on Saturday morning, after his first night in the Executive Mansion, the glow was gone, several people close to him said, and the new president was filled anew with a sense of injury. Rocky First Weekend for Trump Troubles Even His Top Aides A most dreadful inaugural address By George F. Will Twenty minutes into his presidency, Donald Trump, who is always claiming to have made, or to be about to make, astonishing history, had done so. Living down to expectations, he had delivered the most dreadful inaugural address in history. Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s White House counselor, had promised that the speech would be “elegant.” This is not the adjective that came to mind as he described “American carnage.” That was a phrase the likes of which has never hitherto been spoken at an inauguration. Oblivious to the moment and the setting, the always remarkable Trump proved that something dystopian can be strangely exhilarating: In what should have been a civic liturgy serving national unity and confidence, he vindicated his severest critics by serving up reheated campaign rhetoric about “rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape” and an education system producing students “deprived of all knowledge.” Yes, all. But cheer up, because the carnage will vanish if we “follow two simple rules: Buy American and hire American.” “Simple” is the right word. Because in 1981 the inauguration ceremony for a cheerful man from the American West was moved from the Capitol’s East Portico to its West Front, Trump stood facing west, down the Mall with its stately monuments celebrating some of those who made America great — Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln. Looking out toward where the fields of the republic roll on, Trump, a Gatsby-for-our-time, said: “What truly matters is not which party controls our government but whether our government is controlled by the people.” Well. “A dependence on the people,” James Madison wrote, “is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.” He meant the checks and balances of our constitutional architecture. They are necessary because, as Madison anticipated and as the nation was reminded on Friday, “Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 US counterintelligence agents probed Trump adviser Flynn’s Russia ties: WSJ U.S. counterintelligence agents have investigated communications that President Donald Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, had with Russian officials, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday. The Journal, citing sources, said it was not clear if the counterintelligence inquiry produced any incriminating evidence or if it is continuing. The agents were looking into a series of telephone calls Flynn made to the Russian ambassador to the U.S. last year, said the Journal. Read the full WSJ report here. (pay-walled) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 It's good to know that we elected a 13 year old girl as President of the United States. This should end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) It's good to know that we elected a 13 year old girl as President of the United States. This should end well. #maga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) It's good to know that we elected a 13 year old girl as President of the United States. This should end well. That's an insult to 13 year old girls. My wife's students put together far more coherent arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:44 AM) That's an insult to 13 year old girls. My wife's students put together far more coherent arguments. I teach junior high as well. He sounds just like them when trying to prove how popular he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:05 AM) Rocky First Weekend for Trump Troubles Even His Top Aides A most dreadful inaugural address By George F. Will What's interesting about his address is how people can take it 2 different ways. If you're a supporter, that's everything you wanted to hear - confirm all the s***ty things about our country and the fact that he's going to be America First and fix all the problems. If you're an opponent or someone who is on the fence, he did nothing to make you hopeful for the next 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 And what kills me about the crowd size issue, if you had problems with the way your inauguration was covered in the media vs. Obama, fine. Reasonable people will disagree, but attack that issue and complain all you want. That fits your "us vs them" campaign theme. But why go the extra step and tell blatant lies that are easily proven false? You just set yourself up for MORE embarrassment and MORE scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) And what kills me about the crowd size issue, if you had problems with the way your inauguration was covered in the media vs. Obama, fine. Reasonable people will disagree, but attack that issue and complain all you want. That fits your "us vs them" campaign theme. But why go the extra step and tell blatant lies that are easily proven false? You just set yourself up for MORE embarrassment and MORE scrutiny. It has been proven time and time again now that Trump lying and flat out making s*** up doesn't matter so why would he stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Rubio today proved he has no spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) And what kills me about the crowd size issue, if you had problems with the way your inauguration was covered in the media vs. Obama, fine. Reasonable people will disagree, but attack that issue and complain all you want. That fits your "us vs them" campaign theme. But why go the extra step and tell blatant lies that are easily proven false? You just set yourself up for MORE embarrassment and MORE scrutiny. What some people are cautioning is that it's a form of signaling/loyalty testing that autocratic regimes have used before. Push out stories or statements that are so obviously false and easily shown to be so, and watch who still defends them nevertheless. These people can be considered loyal to you, and those who were hesitant or cautioned against it should be purged out. It also conditions supporters to go deeper into the "you can only believe what we tell you" mindset where any source or piece of information that is derided by the leadership is not to be trusted. At this point I'm more inclined to believe it's just his pathetic narcissism driving it and not some grand Machiavellian strategy, but he does have Steve Bannon whispering in his ear and writing his speeches so it's definitely something to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 04:01 PM) But why go the extra step and tell blatant lies that are easily proven false? His ego was hurt. He HAS to have the biggest inauguration crowd ever. There's no way that Kenyan Muslim guy beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) Rubio today proved he has no spine. Alt-courage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) Rubio today proved he has no spine. lol @ anyone who is hoping that Republicans will do anything to oppose Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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