ZiPS Top 100

[NCsoxfan]

Not including the article text as it is Insider

 

ZIPS RANK PLAYER TM PO LAW RANK

1 Dansby Swanson Braves SS 2

2 J.P. Crawford Phillies SS 5

3 Yoan Moncada White Sox 2B 17

4 Cody Bellinger Dodgers 1B 6

5 Manuel Margot Padres CF 24

6 Ozhaino Albies Braves 2B 26

7 Andrew Benintendi Red Sox LF 1

8 Gleyber Torres Yankees SS 4

9 Clint Frazier Yankees CF 27

10 Michael Kopech White Sox RHP 7

11 Brendan Rodgers Rockies SS 19

12 Austin Meadows Pirates CF 9

13 Victor Robles Nationals CF 8

14 Mitch Keller Pirates RHP 16

15 Tyler Glasnow Pirates RHP 25

16 Lewis Brinson Brewers CF 38

17 Alex Reyes Cardinals RHP 10

18 Alex Verdugo Dodgers CF 31

19 Nick Senzel Reds 3B 15

20 Willy Adames Rays SS 43

21 Jesse Winker Reds RF 49

22 Amed Rosario Mets SS 3

23 Rafael Devers Red Sox 3B 11

24 Kevin Newman Pirates SS 33

25 Isan Diaz Brewers 2B 41

26 Lucas Giolito White Sox RHP 13

27 Jharel Cotton Athletics RHP >100

28 Jeff Hoffman Rockies RHP 96

29 Francis Martes Astros RHP 37

30 Luke Weaver Cardinals RHP >100

31 Dom Smith Mets 1B 29

32 Francisco Mejia Indians C 18

33 Jose De Leon Rays RHP 73

34 Aaron Judge Yankees RF 44

35 Anderson Espinoza Padres RHP 21

36 Eloy Jimenez Cubs LF 12

37 Carson Kelly Cardinals C 51

38 Stephen Gonsalves Twins LHP 91

39 Chance Sisco Orioles C 69

40 Robert Gsellman Mets RHP 76

41 Richard Urena Blue Jays SS >100

42 Ronald Acuna Braves CF 36

43 Josh Hader Brewers LHP 71

44 Blake Rutherford Yankees CF 22

45 Kyle Tucker Astros CF 57

46 Sam Travis Red Sox 1B 98

47 Anthony Banda D'backs LHP >100

48 Brent Honeywell Rays RHP 54

49 Yohander Mendez Rangers LHP 75

50 Erick Fedde Nationals RHP >100

51 Ke'Bryan Hayes Pirates 3B 74

52 Thomas Szapucki Mets LHP 60

53 Josh Bell Pirates 1B 14

54 Franklin Perez Astros RHP 66

55 Ian Happ Cubs 2B 63

56 Dawel Lugo D'backs 3B >100

57 Mauricio Dubon Brewers SS >100

58 Kolby Allard Braves LHP 32

59 Dylan Cease Cubs RHP 86

60 A.J. Puk Athletics LHP 93

61 Yadier Alvarez Dodgers RHP 46

62 Yu-Cheng Chang Indians SS >100

63 Lourdes Gurriel Blue Jays LF >100

64 Luis Urias Padres 2B >100

65 Miguel Andujar Yankees 3B >100

66 Jeimer Candelario Cubs 3B >100

67 Raimel Tapia Rockies CF 58

68 Vlad Guerrero Jr. Blue Jays 3B 48

69 Ariel Jurado Rangers RHP 64

70 Jorge Alfaro Phillies C 45

71 Bobby Bradley Indians 1B >100

72 Johan Mieses Dodgers CF >100

73 Willie Calhoun Dodgers 2B >100

74 Franklin Barreto Athletics SS 56

75 Anthony Alford Blue Jays CF 55

76 Daniel Robertson Rays SS >100

77 Travis Demeritte Braves 2B >100

78 Ramon Laureano Astros CF >100

79 Rowdy Tellez Blue Jays 1B >100

80 Sean Newcomb Braves LHP 81

81 Kyle Lewis Mariners CF 68

82 Cal Quantrill Padres RHP 23

83 Brett Phillips Brewers CF >100

84 Nick Gordon Twins SS 53

85 David Paulino Astros RHP >100

86 Zack Collins White Sox C 95

87 Luis Castillo Reds RHP 94

88 Brandon Woodruff Brewers RHP 100

89 Raudy Read Nationals C >100

90 Alec Mills Royals RHP >100

91 Fernando Romero Twins RHP 65

92 Lucas Erceg Brewers 3B 70

93 Bradley Zimmer Indians CF >100

94 Domingo Leyba D'backs SS >100

95 Victor Caratini Cubs C >100

96 Walker Buehler Dodgers RHP 40

97 Derek Fisher Astros CF >100

98 Eliezer Alvarez Cardinals 2B >100

99 Jason Martin Astros CF >100

100 Dan Vogelbach Mariners 1B >100

 

[Chicago White Sox]

I take it Lopez wasn't eligible?

 

Also, if you were looking for a reason to like a Glasnow/Keller/Newman package, these rankings probably did it for you. All three ranked in the top 23.

[striker]

Interesting how high Glasnow and Keller are. There was a Q for Glasnow, Keller, Newman rumor floating around twitter. More intriguing based on ZIPS rankings.

[NCsoxfan]

I'd probably do an Albies/Acuna/Newcomb/+ for Q

[fredmanrique]

No Reynaldo Lopez? Love the Kopech rank though.

[SoxAce]

I take it Lopez wasn't eligible?

 

Also, if you were looking for a reason to like a Glasnow/Keller/Newman package, these rankings probably did it for you. All three ranked in the top 23.

 

Newman is #24 in ZiPS and #33 in Keith Law's ranking. I'm assuming the numbers to the left are the ZiPS rankings for the top 100. Laws is on the right side. Some guys he has aren't even on his top 100 (>100). I don't have the insider, but I believe that's what it means. Could be wrong of course.

Edited January 27, 2017 by SoxAce

[fredmanrique]

I wish Colorado would go wild and all in.

 

Q, Abreu, Robertson for

 

Dahl, Rodgers, Hoffman, Tapia, Pint

 

I know it'll never happen but how much would Q alone cost...

[Chicago White Sox]

I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of a Quintana for Glasnow/Keller/Newman trade. If they were to include Craig as a 4th piece, I'd probably take the deal. Obviously I'm willing to wait things out a bit longer for a legit positional headliner, but the offer mentioned previously would be a ton of talent to pass up. Keller is really shooting up the charts and I'm a huge fan of Newman. I think if the Sox believe Glasnow really is an elite starting pitching prospect, I'm struggling to see how the trade deadline could ever result in that much more talent.

 

I know at some point we need to address the positional side of things, but I think we can eventually do some prospect for prospect trades for bats. A great example would be the Cubs. They have several positional guys who are blocked for the foreseeable future and could definitely use a young, major league starter. Something built around Glasnow & Jimenez could work for both sides. And the great news is we'd pretty much be set up the middle if you believe in Anderson (SS), Newman (2B), Moncada (CF), & Collins ©. That would leave us with only corner spots to fill via free agency or by leveraging our pitching depth.

[fredmanrique]

Have a feeling hahn has been passing on a package with glasnow and newman but not keller up to this point.

[Bob Sacamano]

I wish Colorado would go wild and all in.

 

Q, Abreu, Robertson for

 

Dahl, Rodgers, Hoffman, Tapia, Pint

 

I know it'll never happen but how much would Q alone cost...

 

At some point, I almost feel like Colorado has to make a move like this. At least for Q anyway.

 

Dodgers will always be good and the Giants are usually good.

Edited January 27, 2017 by soxfan2014

[caulfield12]

I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of a Quintana for Glasnow/Keller/Newman trade. If they were to include Craig as a 4th piece, I'd probably take the deal. Obviously I'm willing to wait things out a bit longer for a legit positional headliner, but the offer mentioned previously would be a ton of talent to pass up. Keller is really shooting up the charts and I'm a huge fan of Newman. I think if the Sox believe Glasnow really is an elite starting pitching prospect, I'm struggling to see how the trade deadline could ever result in that much more talent.

 

I know at some point we need to address the positional side of things, but I think we can eventually do some prospect for prospect trades for bats. A great example would be the Cubs. They have several positional guys who are blocked for the foreseeable future and could definitely use a young, major league starter. Something built around Glasnow & Jimenez could work for both sides. And the great news is we'd pretty much be set up the middle if you believe in Anderson (SS), Newman (2B), Moncada (CF), & Collins ©. That would leave us with only corner spots to fill via free agency or by leveraging our pitching depth.

 

Jimenez? Lopez?

 

Maybe Lopez is no longer eligible because of the 44 IP, you need 50 to lose rookie status, but also there's a number of days on the active roster clause too for rookies. Would have to check.

[caulfield12]

I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of a Quintana for Glasnow/Keller/Newman trade. If they were to include Craig as a 4th piece, I'd probably take the deal. Obviously I'm willing to wait things out a bit longer for a legit positional headliner, but the offer mentioned previously would be a ton of talent to pass up. Keller is really shooting up the charts and I'm a huge fan of Newman. I think if the Sox believe Glasnow really is an elite starting pitching prospect, I'm struggling to see how the trade deadline could ever result in that much more talent.

 

I know at some point we need to address the positional side of things, but I think we can eventually do some prospect for prospect trades for bats. A great example would be the Cubs. They have several positional guys who are blocked for the foreseeable future and could definitely use a young, major league starter. Something built around Glasnow & Jimenez could work for both sides. And the great news is we'd pretty much be set up the middle if you believe in Anderson (SS), Newman (2B), Moncada (CF), & Collins ©. That would leave us with only corner spots to fill via free agency or by leveraging our pitching depth.

 

Jimenez? Lopez?

 

Maybe Lopez is no longer eligible because of the 44 IP, you need 50 to lose rookie status, but also there's a number of days on the active roster clause too for rookies. Would have to check.

[Chicago White Sox]

Have a feeling hahn has been passing on a package with glasnow and newman but not keller up to this point.

If that's the case, then he should definitely pass. Newman is not an acceptable second piece unless Meadows is the headliner.

[SCCWS]

If that's the case, then he should definitely pass. Newman is not an acceptable second piece unless Meadows is the headliner.

 

Just wondering how current is this listing. Benintendi had over 100 AB in Boston last year so he shouldn't be considered a prospect. Someone who gets called up and stays on MLB roster is not a prospect to me but maybe Zips uses a different criteria.

 

[pablo]

I'd probably do an Albies/Acuna/Newcomb/+ for Q

 

I would definitely do this as well. Three top 100 prospects - roughly one top ten, one top 50, one top 100 - seems about even to the Sale deal. Moncada and Kopech are top 20 most likely and Basabe would be around 150.

 

I think Atlanta was/is just posturing, hoping the price came down far enough. There is little reason for them to trade for Q. Put this in the pipe dream category.

[caulfield12]

Just wondering how current is this listing. Benintendi had over 100 AB in Boston last year so he shouldn't be considered a prospect. Someone who gets called up and stays on MLB roster is not a prospect to me but maybe Zips uses a different criteria.

 

130+ AB's to lose rookie status.

[Chicago White Sox]

Jimenez? Lopez?

 

Maybe Lopez is no longer eligible because of the 44 IP, you need 50 to lose rookie status, but also there's a number of days on the active roster clause too for rookies. Would have to check.

Lopez could work too. The point here is we'd have a ton of pitching depth to trade from. And major league ready arms are typically a hot commodity. While a team like the Cubs may not want to empty the top-end of their farm system for Quintana, a one for one trade may be incredibly attractive to them. This example just highlights why it's crazy to focus too much on need when dealing someone like Q. Get the most talent possible and address needs later with some level of reason.

[NCsoxfan]

Just wondering how current is this listing. Benintendi had over 100 AB in Boston last year so he shouldn't be considered a prospect. Someone who gets called up and stays on MLB roster is not a prospect to me but maybe Zips uses a different criteria.

 

Listing came out this morning

[bmags]

I wish Colorado would go wild and all in.

 

Q, Abreu, Robertson for

 

Dahl, Rodgers, Hoffman, Tapia, Pint

 

I know it'll never happen but how much would Q alone cost...

 

I mean, probably closer to Dahl/Pint/3rd piece. Robertson would add basically none of the rest.

 

Dahl is really good and already ML proven, don't underrate that.

[caulfield12]

Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers and Cubs fanbases create lots of page views and advertising dollars...

[Bob Sacamano]

I mean, probably closer to Dahl/Pint/3rd piece. Robertson would add basically none of the rest.

 

Dahl is really good and already ML proven, don't underrate that.

 

Yeah and he did good. If anything, the Rockies would likely be willing to deal Blackmon away somewhere for prospects instead but I think his price is too high. I think they should move CarGo to 1B and let Desmond play OF personally if his is the current roster they break camp with.

[FT35]

Have a feeling hahn has been passing on a package with glasnow and newman but not keller up to this point.

 

I can see this...I'm not the biggest Glasnow fan. I know pitchers grow and develop, but his control issues are real. A lot of Pirates fans agree and say his MiLB numbers are a better pitcher than he is. He's got good stuff, but it's my assumption (based on NOTHING of substance), that if Hahn is looking at Glasnow, it's as a 2nd name instead of the headliner. And I think the Sox as a whole might like Keller better. I believe if they liked Glasnow a ton, a deal would have been made by now.

[reiks12]

I can see this...I'm not the biggest Glasnow fan. I know pitchers grow and develop, but his control issues are real. A lot of Pirates fans agree and say his MiLB numbers are a better pitcher than he is. He's got good stuff, but it's my assumption (based on NOTHING of substance), that if Hahn is looking at Glasnow, it's as a 2nd name instead of the headliner. And I think the Sox as a whole might like Keller better. I believe if they liked Glasnow a ton, a deal would have been made by now.

 

I completely agree that Glasnow would be an underwhelming headliner. I would be happy to have him as a second piece. For whatever reason I am optimistic that he can get that walk rate down. He is only 22 and completely dominated the minors.

 

Although Rodon was in the majors as a 22 year old he had a walk/9 of 4.6. He cut that down to 2.9 with some of the worst pitch framing in the game.

 

With some maturity and coaching I can see the same for Glasnow just based on gut feeling (or false hope).

 

Again, I agree there is too much risk for him being a headliner.

 

 

[Y2Jimmy0]

Looking at Law's list a return of Glasnow, Keller and Newman would be great package. Mitch Keller is 16, Tyler Glasnow is 25, and Kevin Newman is 33.

[ChiSoxFanMike]

Please don't tell me people are going to start changing their opinions on potential trade packages solely based on Law's rankings...