steveno89 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:05 PM) Agree and that's why I think if the Nat's were willing to offer those three players for Robertson it would already be a done deal. IMHO, the Nat's might offer two of those three but not all three. Juan Soto would be a great target from the Nats, but we might look for players closer to the mlb Edited January 30, 2017 by steveno89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:33 PM) Juan Soto would be a great target from the Nats, but we might look for players closer to the mlb http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2017/1/30/1444...rtson-white-sox Just saw this article got posted, I wonder if it's old news or if it means talks have advanced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:47 PM) http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2017/1/30/1444...rtson-white-sox Just saw this article got posted, I wonder if it's old news or if it means talks have advanced? I think it is new. Wasn't the report this weekend that the Blue Jays discussed Robertson (which I assume means internally)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:47 PM) Chicago is looking to fetch a hefty ransom of prospects in exchange for the 31-year old. While the White Sox aren’t opposed to trade Robertson now, they’re not quite trigger happy over striking a deal. Robertson’s value will only grow by the time the July non-waiver trade deadline rolls around, giving Chicago the biggest change to double their return. It definitely seems like they don't want to trade him at a reduced price so those hoping otherwise can stop dreaming. Edited January 30, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) I think it is new. Wasn't the report this weekend that the Blue Jays discussed Robertson (which I assume means internally)? It is dated today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) It is dated today. Yes the article came out today but it could have just been reported late I guess you could say since there was talk about it this weekend, though I think it was internal only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'm not all that knowledgable regarding the Blue Jays system. Who should we be hoping the Sox get if this deal does happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) I'm not all that knowledgable regarding the Blue Jays system. Who should we be hoping the Sox get if this deal does happen? Sounds like if a deal happens, it'll be a good haul for us based on the Sox not wanting to deal him after a down year. I'm not too familiar with their system either. Edited January 30, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Here's their top ten: 1. RHP Sean Reid-Foley 2. OF Anthony Alford 3. 3B Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. 4. RHP Conner Greene 5. RHP Jonathan Harris 6. SS Richard Urena 7. RHP T.J. Zeuch 8. 1B Rowdy Tellez 9. C Max Pentecost 10. SS Bo Bichette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) It is dated today. https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/why-the-ro...-185827010.html So far we have now heard the Nationals, Yankees and Blue Jays have shown interest in Robertson Sox do not really need salary relief and are much more interested in acquiring impactful talent in exchange for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/why-the-ro...-185827010.html So far we have now heard the Nationals, Yankees and Blue Jays have shown interest in Robertson Sox do not really need salary relief and are much more interested in acquiring impactful talent in exchange for him Eat the whole thing if you have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:08 PM) Eat the whole thing if you have to If the Sox eat the entire contract I would expect a pretty massive prospect return No way we pay $24 million for him to pitch for the Blue Jays without getting a haul More than likely, I could see the Sox being willing to pick up some of the contract in exchange for a nice prospect return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) If the Sox eat the entire contract I would expect a pretty massive prospect return No way we pay $24 million for him to pitch for the Blue Jays without getting a haul More than likely, I could see the Sox being willing to pick up some of the contract in exchange for a nice prospect return Yeah realistically, would you say $10 mill? 5 this year, 5 next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Yeah realistically, would you say $10 mill? 5 this year, 5 next. I could see the Sox eating 6-10 million of the contract, but that also will increase the return It will all come down to what prospects are coming to the Sox, who need the young talent far more than they need salary relief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) I could see the Sox eating 6-10 million of the contract, but that also will increase the return It will all come down to what prospects are coming to the Sox, who need the young talent far more than they need salary relief Well that kinda goes without saying at this point. Considering how much we've all talked in circles here the past few months. Edited January 30, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Reese McGuire is a name from Toronto, originally Pittsburgh, that I have always had a soft spot for. Absolutely no power and no real hope of developing any, but the rest of the tools are there. He'll start the year at AAA at only 22 years old as a catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:19 PM) Well that kinda goes without saying. After Vlad Jr., Reid Foley, Alford, Urena, Tellez their farm system drops off considerably At minimum one of those four players would have to be in a deal The three best prospects are Vlad Jr., Reid Foley and Urena, which all grade as B+ prospects Honestly, I'm not sure I see a deal getting done right now unless they wow us Robertson could be one of the better relief options at the deadline, and multiple suitors could drive up the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) After Vlad Jr., Reid Foley, Alford, Urena, Tellez their farm system drops off considerably At minimum one of those four players would have to be in a deal The three best prospects are Vlad Jr., Reid Foley and Urena, which all grade as B+ prospects Honestly, I'm not sure I see a deal getting done right now unless they wow us Robertson could be one of the better relief options at the deadline, and multiple suitors could drive up the price I do feel like the Blue Jays will not end up paying the cost and am willing to bet Robertson is here until mid-season (assuming no injury). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Can't say I'm familiar at all with the Blue Jays system, but it seems like they have a few guys that seem to fit with Robertson's trade value at present. Doubtful they could land Guerrero though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:27 PM) I do feel like the Blue Jays will not end up paying the cost and am willing to bet Robertson is here until mid-season (assuming no injury). No reason to deal Robertson now unless the pricetag gets met Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 McGuire and Tellez would be a pretty nice return for Robertson. The Sox likely need to send money along with Robertson but worth it, imo. I think the Nat's might be a better fit for Robertson due to Toronto already having a closer but if the Jays are serious about Robertson then it could force the Nat's to up the ante. Assuming of course the Nat's are still interested in Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 05:25 PM) After Vlad Jr., Reid Foley, Alford, Urena, Tellez their farm system drops off considerably At minimum one of those four players would have to be in a deal The three best prospects are Vlad Jr., Reid Foley and Urena, which all grade as B+ prospects Honestly, I'm not sure I see a deal getting done right now unless they wow us Robertson could be one of the better relief options at the deadline, and multiple suitors could drive up the price Yep. He is better than his 2016 stats due to those two games Robin unnecessarily put him out there and left him swinging in the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) I would take Tellez, Bichette, McGuire for Robertson and $15M. Edited January 30, 2017 by ChiliIrishHammock24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 05:59 PM) I would take Tellez, Bichette, McGuire for Robertson and $15M. Tellez, bichette and McGuire would be a solid return for Robertson for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal now Sources: Howell deal with #BlueJays in $3M range. Team still looking for RHR at similar price. No recent talks with #WhiteSox on Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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