Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) Doesnt a leak like this hurt them more than help since it was obvious that they made the s*** up to get another team to budge? Possibly. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) Doesnt a leak like this hurt them more than help since it was obvious that they made the s*** up to get another team to budge? I'd say yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:28 PM) Mazara, Profar, Mendez and a flier. This return would be way too light IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Here's the article that shot this down: http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rang...h-jose-quintana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 09:40 PM) This return would be way too light IMO. You have your hopes set way too high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Yuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) If done right, it can help. The Sox should have been in regular dialog with the Rangers on this, and if the plan was to really use the Rangers as leverage against the Stros, you tell them that. The Rangers obviously want the Astros to pay as much as possible for Q, and if the Rangers really don't have any interest in him, what harm is it to the Rangers to play along? But then the Rangers have to spread the rumor as well, so you don't have media members squashing it. There is also the chance that the Rangers were trying to fly under the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) This return would be way too light IMO. I'm with you on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) Here's the article that shot this down: http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rang...h-jose-quintana Grant even speculates that they are leveraging Houston. Sox don't usually do this though until they are far along in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) Texas really isnt farm rich...they have some nice prospects. But the guy you want is in the majors right now and it's not Profar. I agree. It was excellent but much of it is now in philly and Milwaukee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) If done right, it can help. The Sox should have been in regular dialog with the Rangers on this, and if the plan was to really use the Rangers as leverage against the Stros, you tell them that. The Rangers obviously want the Astros to pay as much as possible for Q, and if the Rangers really don't have any interest in him, what harm is it to the Rangers to play along? But then the Rangers have to spread the rumor as well, so you don't have media members squashing it. It was sort of a dick move by the Rangers. Play along man!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:43 PM) Grant even speculates that they are leveraging Houston. Sox don't usually do this though until they are far along in the process. Good point. Perhaps we have framework with Houston and are trying to get one more piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:36 PM) This came from Offman first. It seems pretty clear the Sox leaked this locally, then nationally. Then Rangers media members placed calls to their sources with the Rangers, and it got shot down. It does show that clearly moving Q is still priority #1 right now. Nightengale ran with it too, and we all know what that means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) If done right, it can help. The Sox should have been in regular dialog with the Rangers on this, and if the plan was to really use the Rangers as leverage against the Stros, you tell them that. The Rangers obviously want the Astros to pay as much as possible for Q, and if the Rangers really don't have any interest in him, what harm is it to the Rangers to play along? But then the Rangers have to spread the rumor as well, so you don't have media members squashing it. But at the same time too, maybe they don't want to help the Sox deal with the Astros. Sure, the Astros pay more, but who knows how those players will turn out. It's possible they just didn't want the Astros to get a front of the rotation arm signed cheap for the next 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 10:43 PM) Grant even speculates that they are leveraging Houston. Sox don't usually do this though until they are far along in the process. When's last time they did this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) When's last time they did this? Nationals and Sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If they are leveraging Houston they should have used the Pirates whom they have actually had some reportedly serious discussions with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 We know that Tampa was interested in Profar last week. Could this be part of a three team deal assuming it isn't just leveraging for Houston? What deal makes sense for all teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm not interested in an injury-prone, relatively short tenured Profar or the strikeout king Gallo. Give me Mazara, Mendez, Taveras and Guzman for Quintana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 04:48 PM) If they are leveraging Houston they should have used the Pirates whom they have actually had some reportedly serious discussions with. Houston isn't in the NL Central anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:42 PM) You have your hopes set way too high C'mon man. That's a straight s***ty offer. Mazara is nice, but Profar has less control than Q and has been mediocre at best in the big leagues. I don't know a whole lot about Mendez but I think they could get a nice position player as the 3rd piece from someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 And why the hell is George Offman referring to the Rangers as "farm rich" LOL. You know Hahn told him to say those exact words and George doesnt know enough about systems to think its not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Mazara, despite the fact that I think he is rather overrated, is one of those guys who the Rangers aren't going to be willing to trade because he is a key piece of the current 25-man roster. It doesn't make sense to subtract part of what you gain in Quintana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) Good point. Perhaps we have framework with Houston and are trying to get one more piece. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) Nightengale ran with it too, and we all know what that means Sooooo anyone think we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 03:52 PM) And why the hell is George Offman referring to the Rangers as "farm rich" LOL. You know Hahn told him to say those exact words and George doesnt know enough about systems to think its not true. KW. I don't think Hahn would run with those words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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