Bob Sacamano Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 03:30 PM) Is the rumor confirmed that there is nothing to see here? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 03:30 PM) Except we won't be able to sign him for some time. He's off the Twins for 40-man roster and paying him so there is no reason for them to release him if they can keep him in AAA. I shouldn't have said sign, I meant claim/acquire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) I shouldn't have said sign, I meant claim/acquire. Somehow he went unclaimed. Fangraphs wrote a recent article on him, and he squares up the balls in which he contacts the 2nd highest rate in baseball. And he was like 8th best in exit velocity. He hammers the ball when he actually makes contact. With a better contact rate, he's an easy 30 HR candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Somehow he went unclaimed. Fangraphs wrote a recent article on him, and he squares up the balls in which he contacts the 2nd highest rate in baseball. And he was like 8th best in exit velocity. He hammers the ball when he actually makes contact. With a better contact rate, he's an easy 30 HR candidate. Its actually not that surprising. Carter just signed a 1 year $3 mill deal. This guy is making that every year next 3 years and was awful last season. Edited February 9, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) Its actually not that surprising. Carter just signed a 1 year $3 mill deal. This guy is making that every year next 3 years and was awful last season. And Chris Carter signing for so little is surprising as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) And Chris Carter signing for so little is surprising as well. I mean, maybe a little surprising, but he's a guy with one tool. He can hit the snot off of a baseball when he makes contact, and that's it. If the power tails from where it is - among the best in the league - he's virtually a replacement level player, like he was in 2015 (0.4 WAR). This year he was 0.9. He has value, but he is a highly flawed player with no versatility beyond 1B and no value beyond hitting the ball a mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (Baron @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 01:21 PM) Sears wrong again. What a surprise. Leave Chill/JoeCoolman's boy alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) I mean, maybe a little surprising, but he's a guy with one tool. He can hit the snot off of a baseball when he makes contact, and that's it. If the power tails from where it is - among the best in the league - he's virtually a replacement level player, like he was in 2015 (0.4 WAR). This year he was 0.9. He has value, but he is a highly flawed player with no versatility beyond 1B and no value beyond hitting the ball a mile. Well, 0.9 WAR would be worth about $6.5M annually. I figured Carter would have gotten at least 1 yr/$5-6M somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 02:20 AM) Well, 0.9 WAR would be worth about $6.5M annually. I figured Carter would have gotten at least 1 yr/$5-6M somewhere. Alvarez is out there and put up .7 WAR. He could be a very cheap signing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 07:06 AM) Alvarez is out there and put up .7 WAR. He could be a very cheap signing as well. But why pay for a .7 WAR guy when someone from the minors would be nearly as good? .7 of a win is not worth spending money on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 10:53 AM) But why pay for a .7 WAR guy when someone from the minors would be nearly as good? .7 of a win is not worth spending money on. I wasn't really trying to advocate it. I meant just in general for any team. I would rather have an open spot for in-house options or a higher upside signing to flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 10:53 AM) But why pay for a .7 WAR guy when someone from the minors would be nearly as good? .7 of a win is not worth spending money on. If the price is low, go for it. At worst he sucks and Giolitto replaces him in July. If he is good, he is trade bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) If the price is low, go for it. At worst he sucks and Giolitto replaces him in July. If he is good, he is trade bait. Pedro Alvarez, not Henderson haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 11:03 AM) Pedro Alvarez, not Henderson haha lol, same logic remains, just change the replacement player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 11:11 AM) lol, same logic remains, just change the replacement player. Agreed. I'd probably take a flyer on Henderson. Edited February 10, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) I wasn't really trying to advocate it. I meant just in general for any team. I would rather have an open spot for in-house options or a higher upside signing to flip. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 02:20 AM) Well, 0.9 WAR would be worth about $6.5M annually. I figured Carter would have gotten at least 1 yr/$5-6M somewhere. His floor is probably that of a 0 or -1 WAR player though too, and it also sort of dictates how the league views him too. A $3 million salary is that of a part time player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think that it's official at this point that there's nothing to see here, not just a rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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