reiks12 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 im numb to these B grade rumors. Winter killed me I'll get hyped when one of the big boys tweets about it. Let me know when Rosenthal is on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 12:59 PM) Jim Bowden @JimBowden_ESPN 6m #WhiteSox continue to work hard on Jose Quintana trade that could happen before opening day with Astros & Braves appear best possibilities Jim Bowden @JimBowden_ESPN 20s A potential #WhiteSox #Astros deal would be centered around a package of both Frances Martes and Kyle Tucker. However, nothing close. Why even tweet this? If nothing is close then how would a deal be centered around those two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Tucker/Martes/Reed/Laureano is what I'm guessing the package will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) Why even tweet this? If nothing is close then how would a deal be centered around those two? You can have a couple of pieces in place, but not the rest. The possibility exists that much like the Red Sox deal, the top pieces fell into place, but it was the third player and beyond the teams had debate on. Remember the White Sox wanted Devers, but Boston wasn't willing. Moncada and Kopech were already in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) You can have a couple of pieces in place, but not the rest. The possibility exists that much like the Red Sox deal, the top pieces fell into place, but it was the third player and beyond the teams had debate on. Remember the White Sox wanted Devers, but Boston wasn't willing. Moncada and Kopech were already in place. If those two pieces are in place, after all this time, it's close. Makes you wonder about Luhnow's latest comment in re "the ask..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Here are the principals - but nothing's close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Martes and Tucker and after that I would love: One of: Franklin Perez Ramon Laureano Garrett Stubbs One of: Daz Cameron Jason Martin Miguelangel Sierra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 It is interesting and not inconsequential that Q has not been officially named Opening Day starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) It is interesting and not inconsequential that Q has not been officially named Opening Day starter. They can announce him as OD starter and still trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:36 PM) If those two pieces are in place, after all this time, it's close. Makes you wonder about Luhnow's latest comment in re "the ask..." Not necesarily. If Houston is saying Martes, Tucker, and C level prospects/nothing else while the White Sox are saying something like Tucker/Martes/Reed/Fisher, that is a pretty big gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) Martes and Tucker and after that I would love: One of: Franklin Perez Ramon Laureano Garrett Stubbs One of: Daz Cameron Jason Martin Miguelangel Sierra I say dump the overrated and costly (prospect currency wise) Martes and go with Tucker, Reed, Perez and Laureano. Overall I'd still rather work with the Yankees or Pirates though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:56 PM) I say dump the overrated and costly (prospect currency wise) Martes and go with Tucker, Reed, Perez and Laureano. Overall I'd still rather work with the Yankees or Pirates though. The Pirates are not going to come to play. They want the player but will never be willing to part with the prospects that it takes. They can keep the prospects and struggle to even make it into the playoffs let alone win a playoff series for all I care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:56 PM) I say dump the overrated and costly (prospect currency wise) Martes and go with Tucker, Reed, Perez and Laureano. Overall I'd still rather work with the Yankees or Pirates though. I don't see either as likely until mid-season and depending on how say McCutchen is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:36 PM) If those two pieces are in place, after all this time, it's close. Makes you wonder about Luhnow's latest comment in re "the ask..." Wasn't that the Pirates' GM or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) Wasn't that the Pirates' GM or am I wrong? Just went back a few pages to check. You're correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:46 PM) They can announce him as OD starter and still trade him. Of course and I get that; however, there has been a reticence to name him when he is clearly healthy and the man for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 03:25 PM) Of course and I get that; however, there has been a reticence to name him when he is clearly healthy and the man for the job. I still would say 90% chance that Quintana is on the White Sox roster by opening day Teams know the price, Sox have zero reason to budge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) Martes and Tucker and after that I would love: One of: Franklin Perez Ramon Laureano Garrett Stubbs One of: Daz Cameron Jason Martin Miguelangel Sierra I'd be underwhelmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) I'd be underwhelmed. "Martes and Tucker and after that I would love: One of: Franklin Perez Ramon Laureano Garrett Stubbs One of: Daz Cameron Jason Martin Miguelangel Sierra" Martes + Tucker + Perez/Laureano/Stubbs + Cameron/Martin/Sierra would be a very compelling offer that I would find hard to pass up I do not see Houston being willing to offer up 4 top 12 organizational prospects though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) I do not see Houston being willing to offer up 4 top 12 organizational prospects though Hopefully the fact that they draft 4 times before the 3rd round even helps persuade them that they can take the hit. They may not draft as good of prospects (which they could) but the lesser round guys at least helps replenish depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 03:54 PM) Hopefully the fact that they draft 4 times before the 3rd round even helps persuade them that they can take the hit. They may not draft as good of prospects (which they could) but the lesser round guys at least helps replenish depth. Eventually a contender (like the Astros) will realize it wants to win right now, and worry less about 5 years from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 What is to lose by naming Q the OD starter and still trading him before opening day? Do they think the fans will feel slighted if that happens? They must really think there is a good chance he goes before then by going out fo their way to NOT name him the OD starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 04:00 PM) Eventually a contender (like the Astros) will realize it wants to win right now, and worry less about 5 years from now They may even realize that by May. And the good news is I fully expect the Sox to be willing to make a move early if someone meets their price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) Wasn't that the Pirates' GM or am I wrong? Yeah, I just realized that. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 22, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) They may even realize that by May. And the good news is I fully expect the Sox to be willing to make a move early if someone meets their price. I think once the season gets underway, you may as well see what the deadline brings. Screw these teams for trying to play it cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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