Pat M. Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 James Shields next please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) Right, I think they thought he'd be our 3rd baseman to start year. That said, I don't like the look of twice having picked up the option on players then released them in spring training when it's less likely they can find an ML role, aside from the cash issues. I know Lawrie has an injury again, still wish it didn't work out this way. I highly doubt we're the only team. Plus, I don't think Viciedo even made it to spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Ralph Garr @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) James Shields next please. Nah, Sox need to squeeze as many innings out of Shields, Holland, and Gonzalez as possible until it's time for the youngsters. Edited March 3, 2017 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) I highly doubt we're the only team. Plus, I don't think Viciedo even made it to spring training. We're certainly not the only team. I just don't like when it's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if Lawrie sues the Sox or the Player's Association does something considering all of the complaining about the orthotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) Another fun reminder for Hahn having an insanely bad offseason last year. Yah, because we're really going to miss Zack Irwin and JB Wendelken. Peace to Lawrie. Dude can't stay healthy. At this point, let's see what we have with Saladino at 2B everyday until Moncada is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Regardless of what we gave up, our FO targeted Lawrie as an upgrade. If you weren't a fan of the upgrade it's still fair to criticize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 07:00 PM) Yah, because we're really going to miss Zack Irwin and JB Wendelken. Peace to Lawrie. Dude can't stay healthy. At this point, let's see what we have with Saladino at 2B everyday until Moncada is ready. It's more just that basically everyone is already gone from last offseason where they made a ton of moves. The performance of the players was very underwhelming as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 07:05 PM) Regardless of what we gave up, our FO targeted Lawrie as an upgrade. If you weren't a fan of the upgrade it's still fair to criticize. The scouting of current MLB players to acquire has been just awful for far too long. Have to wonder how bad it is in relation to other organizations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 01:06 PM) It's more just that basically everyone is already gone from last offseason where they made a ton of moves. The performance of the players was very underwhelming as well. Who else is gone from the "ton of moves?" They biggest one is still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) Regardless of what we gave up, our FO targeted Lawrie as an upgrade. If you weren't a fan of the upgrade it's still fair to criticize. Agreed. I was a big fan of the trade and that's why I'm not criticizing it. Things did not work out and it's time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Mncada appears to be further away from becoming a starting player in the majors than I imagined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 No big loss, Salad outplayed him last year for alot less money. He can hold down the fort till Moncada is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 No big surprise. I wouldn't have minded them carrying him into the regular season, but being injured again, he became a waste of money and a roster spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) Regardless of what we gave up, our FO targeted Lawrie as an upgrade. If you weren't a fan of the upgrade it's still fair to criticize. At 1 WAR technically he was a ~2 WAR upgrade, considering we were at -1.1 WAR out of our 2B in 2015, which was dead last in the MLB. Edited March 3, 2017 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) Mncada appears to be further away from becoming a starting player in the majors than I imagined. Based off of what? 9 spring training at bats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Best for all concerned. Guy couldn't stay healthy and just seemed like an odd-duck. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Best for all concerned. Guy couldn't stay healthy and just seemed like an odd-duck. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 02:12 PM) Based off of what? 9 spring training at bats? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) At 1 WAR technically he was a ~2 WAR upgrade, considering we were at -1.1 WAR out of our 2B in 2015, which was dead last in the MLB. Yeah, but the most disappointing thing to me about our 2015-2016 teams was the solution of putting below replacement level talent with marginally above replacement level talent and thinking it would equal 15 additional wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 02:44 PM) Yes. Remember he is ONLY 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) I wouldn't be surprised if Lawrie sues the Sox or the Player's Association does something considering all of the complaining about the orthotics. Exactly what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Colleen Kane @ChiTribKane 2h2 hours ago Rick Hahn says White Sox re-signed Brett Lawrie in Dec. because thought then might need him to fill hole in case of trade (likely Frazier). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 02:50 PM) Remember he is ONLY 21. I guess I was expecting the immediate impact of a hitter like Benintendi for Chris Sale. I am not concluding that Moncada was over hyped but I am starting to wonder if he will turn out to be as good of a player as his rating as a number the number one prospect in baseball. http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox...ying_to_be_more Edited March 3, 2017 by miracleon35th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) I guess I was expecting the immediate impact of a hitter like Benintendi for Chris Sale. I am not concluding that Moncada was over hyped but I am starting to wonder if he will turn out to be as good of a player as his rating as a number the number one prospect in baseball. http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox...ying_to_be_more Your assumption is based on him not being ready? WOW Edited March 3, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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