southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Ball pulled his son out of UCLA. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketbal...ngelo-ball-ucla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Whoa Loyola beat Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2017 -> 08:59 PM) Whoa Loyola beat Florida Go Valley! Just don't look at the SIU score from last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Looks to me like it's Duke, Villanova and maybe Michigan State and then everyone else is just ok to bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 7, 2017 -> 10:39 AM) Looks to me like it's Duke, Villanova and maybe Michigan State and then everyone else is just ok to bad. Nothing means anything until conference play. Although pac looks woeful this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Wichita is a legit title contender once they get McDuffie back too. I do think Duke and MSU are your top tier though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) Refs update: in a game at the mgm grand, Illinois gets called for school record 36 fouls in 1 game resulting in 33 more free throws (r8 Total!!!) for UNLV Edited December 10, 2017 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 01:28 AM) Refs update: in a game at the mgm grand, Illinois gets called for school record 36 fouls in 1 game resulting in 33 more free throws (r8 Total!!!) for UNLV Man, Illinois got screwed again?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Watched whole Illinois game and there really weren't that many questionable foul calls. Illinois players just don't know how to play defense without being too aggressive right now. Alstork in particular was totally out of control last night and Lucas has a horrible habit of lowering his shoulder every time he drives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Underwood is a good, not great, coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 09:15 PM) Underwood is a good, not great, coach. Based on what, exactly? I didn't watch the UNLV game, but every other game they should have won. They're scoring more points than they have in years, they're pressuring the ball and getting a lot of turnovers. If they would stop fouling and if the freshman would stop being freshman (obviously expected) they'd be undefeated right now. Yes, I realize that's a Tim Beckman "if you take away three of their touchdowns we're in the game" argument, but I'm just saying there's reason for optimism despite the losses. You can see the potential and you can see they're a much better team than the last several years. They're just young and inexperienced. At least they fight and stay in games. They're not getting blown out. Also, thanks to Groce, they have no size. That's not something Underwood can control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Yeah Underwood has the 3rd best record ever of anyone in his first 4+ years. He going to be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 09:50 AM) Based on what, exactly? I didn't watch the UNLV game, but every other game they should have won. They're scoring more points than they have in years, they're pressuring the ball and getting a lot of turnovers. If they would stop fouling and if the freshman would stop being freshman (obviously expected) they'd be undefeated right now. Yes, I realize that's a Tim Beckman "if you take away three of their touchdowns we're in the game" argument, but I'm just saying there's reason for optimism despite the losses. You can see the potential and you can see they're a much better team than the last several years. They're just young and inexperienced. At least they fight and stay in games. They're not getting blown out. Also, thanks to Groce, they have no size. That's not something Underwood can control. Watching his Oklahoma State teams last year. Maybe he's improved since then. His teams haven't exactly played the stingiest defense. Like I said, I think he's good, just not sure he's a cream-of-the-crop guy. He's not that dissimilar from Prohm, here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 07:15 PM) Watching his Oklahoma State teams last year. Maybe he's improved since then. His teams haven't exactly played the stingiest defense. Like I said, I think he's good, just not sure he's a cream-of-the-crop guy. He's not that dissimilar from Prohm, here. I'm all for whatever gets Illinois to NCAA tournaments without necessarily ending up with Underwood leaving for Kentucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Carlos Douglas Jr. @TheRealC_Los 9m9 minutes ago Medical director Rick Lehman, who has 32 yrs of experience & has treated #Bulls Legend Michael Jordan in the past, feels Missouri F Micheal Porter Jr can return from his back injury to play in about 4-6 wks. If that happens, the #Bulls & other @NBA teams will be able scout him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 07:15 PM) Watching his Oklahoma State teams last year. Maybe he's improved since then. His teams haven't exactly played the stingiest defense. Like I said, I think he's good, just not sure he's a cream-of-the-crop guy. He's not that dissimilar from Prohm, here. Underwood has the reputation and the results to back it up, he's a top tier coach. The questions are around his ability to build a P5 program (with recruiting, etc). I think he can do it, but the start isn't as encouraging as I would like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 11:50 PM) Underwood has the reputation and the results to back it up, he's a top tier coach. The questions are around his ability to build a P5 program (with recruiting, etc). I think he can do it, but the start isn't as encouraging as I would like. I wouldn't say he has the results to show he's a top-tier coach yet. Lots of guys have won huge at low to mid-majors only to be ineffective at the highest level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 05:52 PM) I wouldn't say he has the results to show he's a top-tier coach yet. Lots of guys have won huge at low to mid-majors only to be ineffective at the highest level He turned a 12 win OKST team into a 20 win, 7 seed team. He can do it at the P5 level. Like I said, he's got a tremendous reputation for being a top notch coach, he has enough results to back that up (in my opinion). But he has zero evidence in being able to build a program at the P5 level, so plenty of questions on whether he actually succeeds at Illinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 12:10 AM) He turned a 12 win OKST team into a 20 win, 7 seed team. He can do it at the P5 level. Like I said, he's got a tremendous reputation for being a top notch coach, he has enough results to back that up (in my opinion). But he has zero evidence in being able to build a program at the P5 level, so plenty of questions on whether he actually succeeds at Illinois. Didn't hurt he had a superstar pg at Oklahoma St and was replacing a horrible coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 06:39 PM) Didn't hurt he had a superstar pg at Oklahoma St and was replacing a horrible coach Chicken or egg argument I guess. Luckily he's bringing in back to back Illinois Mr. Basketballs, so we'll find out if he can coach within the next two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 A friend just sent this to me. http://thebiglead.com/2017/12/14/stop-hati...asketball-play/ What an absolute, horses*** call. I hope Wisconsin loses every conference game this year based on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Looks like Porter is coming back a lot sooner than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Trae Young, 29 points and 22 assists in 29 minutes, dear God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 07:59 PM) Trae Young, 29 points and 22 assists in 29 minutes, dear God His first half against the Shockers over the weekend is one of the best halves I've seen a college kid play in a looooong time. This kid is absolutely incredible. He's the best player in college basketball and it's not close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 His draft stock went through the roof tonight. He's now on the radar for top 5, perhaps even top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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