ChiSoxJon Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Upcoming UFAs: C Geovany Soto (off to hot start, returns low level prospect or 2), 3B Todd Frazier (big time power bat with small market already, returns 2-3 Top 15 Org. prospects depending on performance), LF Melky Cabrera (Very solid OF that any contender could use, could return 2 solid prospects), P Derek Holland (could net small return if he performs well this spring), P Miguel Gonzalez (had small interest last year, could net 1-2 smaller prospects) Note: NONE of the players listed above should be brought back in '18 and should be dealt for any value they can net These deals create room for prospects C Kevan Smith, 3B Nicky Delmonico, OF Jacob May/Charlie Tilson/Adam Engel, and Ps Carson Fulmer/Reynaldo Lopez to be called up in July/August Controlled Players with Growing Markets (Higher returns): In order of likelihood to be dealt: P Jose Quintana (Controlled through 2020, one of bigger names on trading block currently, can net a package in between what Sale-Eaton got), P David Robertson (Controlled through 2018, bound to have growing market, can net 2 Top 10 Org. prospects), P Nate Jones (Controlled through 2021, one of MLB's most underrated relievers), P Zach Putnam (Controlled through 2019), 1B Jose Abreu (Controlled through 2019, unlikely to be dealt, wants to retire with Sox) Players Who Should be Dealt When They Create ANY Value: P James Shields (self explanatory) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 The English language consists of 26 letters: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y and Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 10:34 AM) The English language consists of 26 letters: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y and Z Meaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) Meaning? (stating the obvious) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 You forgot Dan Jennings, who will be traded if he's a decent season, as there is always a market for left-handed relievers. He is also controlled through 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 09:52 AM) You forgot Dan Jennings, who will be traded if he's a decent season, as there is always a market for left-handed relievers. He is also controlled through 2019. Jennings should net a decent piece or two. Same with Putnam. Big being controlled through 2019 is valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I guess we just shouldn't field a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Nothing wrong with looking ahead since Soto, Frazier, MiGo, Holland and Melky are free agents after this season. Seeing what kind of offers the Sox can get for Q, Robertson and Jones just makes sense for a rebuilding team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) Nothing wrong with looking ahead since Soto, Frazier, MiGo, Holland and Melky are free agents after this season. Seeing what kind of offers the Sox can get for Q, Robertson and Jones just makes sense for a rebuilding team. I don't think it would be news that that is the plan. Hahn has made no secret of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 11:05 AM) Jennings should net a decent piece or two. Same with Putnam. Big being controlled through 2019 is valuable. I bet Putnam gets undervalued because he doesn't throw hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 05:03 PM) I don't think it would be news that that is the plan. Hahn has made no secret of that. Yep. I think Hahn said after the Sale/Eaton trades that he'd like to make four or five more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 05:39 PM) Yep. I think Hahn said after the Sale/Eaton trades that he'd like to make four or five more. he certainly needs to; closer to 7 or 8 more. Add the Mariners to the "we need relief pitching" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 Quintana, Robertson, Frazier, and Melky look to be gaining the most interest so far as well as Swarzak and Kahnle Quintana to MIL for Brinson, Hader, Phillips, and Bickford/Kirby Robertson and Kahnle to WSH for Soto and Severino Frazier to BOS for Chavis/Groome, Cosart, and Callahan Melky and Swarzak to NYY for Fowler and Tate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) Quintana, Robertson, Frazier, and Melky look to be gaining the most interest so far as well as Swarzak and Kahnle Quintana to MIL for Brinson, Hader, Phillips, and Bickford/Kirby Robertson and Kahnle to WSH for Soto and Severino Frazier to BOS for Chavis/Groome, Cosart, and Callahan Melky and Swarzak to NYY for Fowler and Tate Robertson + Kahnle should bring back more than Soto and a catching prospect who can't hit, especially when the Nationals are desperate. I'd insist on significantly more, and start the ask with Robles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) Robertson + Kahnle should bring back more than Soto and a catching prospect who can't hit, especially when the Nationals are desperate. I'd insist on significantly more, and start the ask with Robles. Agreed, I'd continue to ask for Robles but I'd settle for Soto and a flier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) Robertson + Kahnle should bring back more than Soto and a catching prospect who can't hit, especially when the Nationals are desperate. I'd insist on significantly more, and start the ask with Robles. Agreed. That was my biggest beef with those trades. Robo + Kahnle should get a haul. Soto + Kieboom ++ Tho, don't see anyway the Red Sox and Yanks would make those proposed deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 As of August 1st, the White Sox will be renamed the White Knights with the arrival of 12 players from Charlotte. White Knights gear will be available till the end of the season. The increase in merchandise revenue will be given to the Charlotte AAA franchise which will be forced to cancel the rest of their season due to lack of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) As of August 1st, the White Sox will be renamed the White Knights with the arrival of 12 players from Charlotte. White Knights gear will be available till the end of the season. The increase in merchandise revenue will be given to the Charlotte AAA franchise which will be forced to cancel the rest of their season due to lack of players. I don't see the White Knights being very marketable on the South Side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) Quintana, Robertson, Frazier, and Melky look to be gaining the most interest so far as well as Swarzak and Kahnle Quintana to MIL for Brinson, Hader, Phillips, and Bickford/Kirby Robertson and Kahnle to WSH for Soto and Severino Frazier to BOS for Chavis/Groome, Cosart, and Callahan Melky and Swarzak to NYY for Fowler and Tate NY and Boston would not make those deals either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) Agreed. That was my biggest beef with those trades. Robo + Kahnle should get a haul. Soto + Kieboom ++ Tho, don't see anyway the Red Sox and Yanks would make those proposed deals. Hope you're right, I'd be ecstatic with Soto and Kieboom and a flier, maybe even more so than Robles I think the NYY is less likely than the BOS deal but both are iffy, I'd love that kid Fowler (even being severely hurt) and Tate has been sharp pitching low levels, not rated very high due to age likely BOS I'd like to get at least one Top 100ish prospect from, Groome is filthy but has off field issues that may point BOS to dealing him, Chavis is a pretty good prospect as well... I'd like Chavis and a flier or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:51 AM) NY and Boston would not make those deals either My first thought when I read that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:51 AM) Hope you're right, I'd be ecstatic with Soto and Kieboom and a flier, maybe even more so than Robles I think the NYY is less likely than the BOS deal but both are iffy, I'd love that kid Fowler (even being severely hurt) and Tate has been sharp pitching low levels, not rated very high due to age likely BOS I'd like to get at least one Top 100ish prospect from, Groome is filthy but has off field issues that may point BOS to dealing him, Chavis is a pretty good prospect as well... I'd like Chavis and a flier or two I'd like to as well but really can't see it. If any team offers a top 100 prospect for Frazier, pull the trigger immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:51 AM) Hope you're right, I'd be ecstatic with Soto and Kieboom and a flier, maybe even more so than Robles I think the NYY is less likely than the BOS deal but both are iffy, I'd love that kid Fowler (even being severely hurt) and Tate has been sharp pitching low levels, not rated very high due to age likely BOS I'd like to get at least one Top 100ish prospect from, Groome is filthy but has off field issues that may point BOS to dealing him, Chavis is a pretty good prospect as well... I'd like Chavis and a flier or two I think you are overestimating what a Frazier rental would be worth on the trade market. Sox will likely take a B-/C+ prospect for him at this point, even with his improved play. Chavis has nearly a 1.000 OPS in the minors this season and is not likely to be dealt for a rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) I'd like to as well but really can't see it. If any team offers a top 100 prospect for Frazier, pull the trigger immediately. I agree with that, which is why I'd like Groome or Chavis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:42 AM) As of August 1st, the White Sox will be renamed the White Knights with the arrival of 12 players from Charlotte. White Knights gear will be available till the end of the season. The increase in merchandise revenue will be given to the Charlotte AAA franchise which will be forced to cancel the rest of their season due to lack of players. The only way I will accept this is if Guaranteed Rate Field or whatever is renamed to White Castle Stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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