Greg Hibbard Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I've been poring over this guy's major league and minor league career, and what am I missing here? He seems like a good contact hitter with little power, suspect defense at 3rd base. Why are we spending a roster spot on a guy who appears to be Gordon Beckham without defense, especially since we have a 3rd baseman this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 It's a good question. My only guess is that they want Delmonico getting regular playing time instead of 2-3 times a week in MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) It's a good question. My only guess is that they want Delmonico getting regular playing time instead of 2-3 times a week in MLB. Asche is effectively playing DH though. Anyone could play DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Given the general goal of the season, he doesn't bother me much. And if he keeps on sucking, I don't think he will be around long enough to bother me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 I suppose maybe Saladino plays (backup) third/utility infielder when Moncada comes up and maybe Asche goes down then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) Given the general goal of the season, he doesn't bother me much. And if he keeps on sucking, I don't think he will be around long enough to bother me Same. Delmonico or Hayes will be up if he doesn't start hitting a bit, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:54 PM) I suppose maybe Saladino plays (backup) third/utility infielder when Moncada comes up and maybe Asche goes down then? I'd bank on Sanchez or Leury getting dfa'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Bring up Delmonico or Hayes and send down a pitcher or send Jacob May to the minors. Even with Asche platooning in RF with Avi, Delmonico could DH against RH starting pitchers or pinch hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:54 PM) I suppose maybe Saladino plays (backup) third/utility infielder when Moncada comes up and maybe Asche goes down then? My plan would be 1) move Jose to DH full time, 2) Frazier to 1B full time, 3) Tyler to 3B full time, 4) Moncada to 2B. That's actually a pretty nice defensive IF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 11:50 AM) Given the general goal of the season, he doesn't bother me much. And if he keeps on sucking, I don't think he will be around long enough to bother me He bothers me to the extent that he's taking ABs from Davidson, a guy who might still have some upside at the MLB level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 For a fanbase that complains when the White Sox try to win, want them to do nothing but lose, they sure do complain a lot about s***ty players. You want the Sox to lose, don't complain Asche is in the line up. He gets them where you want them to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) My plan would be 1) move Jose to DH full time, 2) Frazier to 1B full time, 3) Tyler to 3B full time, 4) Moncada to 2B. That's actually a pretty nice defensive IF. Can't imagine moving Frazier to 1B would help his trade value... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 One thing that I have learned about Cody Asche is that the "e" is not silent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) He bothers me to the extent that he's taking ABs from Davidson, a guy who might still have some upside at the MLB level. Are they really though? Davidson has seemed to have issues mentally. They are setting him up to succeed IMO by platooning him with Asche. Worked for Trayce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 10:58 AM) He bothers me to the extent that he's taking ABs from Davidson, a guy who might still have some upside at the MLB level. Does Davidson actually have more upside then Asche? They are both roughly the same age and Asche had better minor league numbers, especially at the more advanced levels (after getting drafted he flew through Phillies system). You could argue he was rushed and he obviously struggled to hit at the major league level. I recognize Asche had more time spent at the major league level, where he proved what he wasn't capable of. Neither are anything special defensively. I guess I don't view either of them as much different. Davidson had a bit more hype at the point we acquired him, but the Phils saw something in Asche that they liked enough that they tried to give him ample time to earn a major league spot. So quesiton is, do we think Davidson is going to suddenly change from the guy he was in the minors for a long time or do we think a change of scenery and maybe a tweak can change Asche? Asche earned the opportunity based upon his spring performance. Odds are both will suck, but I don't view Davidson as any better gamble then Asche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (turnin' two @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) Can't imagine moving Frazier to 1B would help his trade value... Just because he plays 1B doesn't mean he loses the ability to play 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 If Asche or Davidson turn useful, the White Sox have bucked the odds. Might as well give them both an opportunity. I really don't see where one is clearly better than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I forgot Ashe is only 26. I thought he was closer to 30, he looks 35ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) He bothers me to the extent that he's taking ABs from Davidson, a guy who might still have some upside at the MLB level. They are both kind of in the same bucket to me, former hyped prospects just hoping to stick now. It will get sorted out soon enough, sooner if Asche keeps going 0-fer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Asche is another one of those kind of guys who you grab a pile of in a rebuilding situation. You literally have nothing to lose here. If he fails, you cut him, and you miss out on nothing. He isn't really blocking anyone of substance (and no Davidson isn't of substance, he is in the same boat as Asche). If you get one guy like this to succeed, you gained an asset for zero cost to the organization. The same goes for Avi, Davidson, W Garcia, R Liriano, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) They are both kind of in the same bucket to me, former hyped prospects just hoping to stick now. It will get sorted out soon enough, sooner if Asche keeps going 0-fer Asche had a hit yesterday and has hit some balls hard. I am more concerned about May, who looks over matched, clueless, and weak at the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) Just because he plays 1B doesn't mean he loses the ability to play 3B yea exactly, and if it keeps him healthier, it might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Asche had a hit yesterday and has hit some balls hard. I am more concerned about May, who looks over matched, clueless, and weak at the plate. Well May looked overmatched in AAA, so not sure what the Sox expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) Asche had a hit yesterday and has hit some balls hard. I am more concerned about May, who looks over matched, clueless, and weak at the plate. May had a .660 OPS in AAA last year. Davidson, Sanchez, Leury Garcia, blow that away, and they can't hit. People fall for spring training stats way too easily. Edited April 10, 2017 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) Asche had a hit yesterday and has hit some balls hard. I am more concerned about May, who looks over matched, clueless, and weak at the plate. May can field an important position and he really doesnt matter here. Asche and Davidson are fighting for the same PT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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