chitownsportsfan Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 This f***ing guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 when is Schwarbs HOF bust gonna be ready for viewing?...just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Some interesting stats, from which you can drawn your own conclusions: The Sox have compiled the League's worst offensive stats: AVG .219 OBP .281 SLG .359 OPS .641 While Avi has produced the following League leading stats: AVG .440 OBP .481 SLG .680 OPS 1.161 Edited April 19, 2017 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Wow. Apparently the heroin epidemic has hit Soxtalk. Extending Avi? Trading Avi for Schwarber? Step one is admitting you have a problem. Get help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) Wow. Apparently the heroin epidemic has hit Soxtalk. Extending Avi? Trading Avi for Schwarber? Step one is admitting you have a problem. Get help. Drawing conclusions about a player less than a month into the season is extremely foolish For example Mat Latos was excellent in April in 2016, but awfuyl in May leading to the Sox DFA'ing him Garcia looks promising so far, but I need to see another solid 1-2 months of production before we can make any determination that this isn't just a crazy hot streak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) Drawing conclusions about a player less than a month into the season is extremely foolish For example Mat Latos was excellent in April in 2016, but awfuyl in May leading to the Sox DFA'ing him Garcia looks promising so far, but I need to see another solid 1-2 months of production before we can make any determination that this isn't just a crazy hot streak The early bird gets the worm. Do you really think Avi will tail off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 01:10 PM) The early bird gets the worm. Do you really think Avi will tail off? I am pretty certain he will not put up .440/.480/.680 over the course of a season, so yes, I think he will tail off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Chuck GarfienVerified account @ChuckGarfien 3h3 hours ago How about this Avisail Garcia slash line with runners in scoring position so far---.545/.615/1.273. #WhiteSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 CSN ChicagoVerified account @CSNChicago 4h4 hours ago Avi Garcia has reached base by hit or walk in all 13 games so far. The @WhiteSox play tonight on CSN at 6! Stream: http://bit.ly/2n4oxIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 LOL How Avi has become a must watch at bat is just unbelievable. What kind of bizarre world are we living in with the Bulls up 2-0, the Hawks down 3-0, and Avi leading a second place whitesox team? These things will all come back to reality eventually(maybe not the Hawks) but hey its why we love sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 After last night's game Avi has now been credited with .9 fWAR. That brings his total career fWAR to...zero! Baby steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:03 PM) Chuck GarfienVerified account @ChuckGarfien 3h3 hours ago How about this Avisail Garcia slash line with runners in scoring position so far---.545/.615/1.273. #WhiteSox Last year when people would ask about anything Avi did right I made sure to point out he was one of the best Sox hitters with RISP. If he took that approach and applied it to all his AB's he may have found something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Avi has now passed the 70 PA threshold for K rate. He's at 23.5%. A good sign but he needs to continue to hit for power. His iso is dropping quickly and if you normalize his BABIP down to a more reasonable .340 instead of .457 his slash line goes down basically to his career stats. Frankly, looking at his stats this week, I don't see much room for optimism that he has really turned a corner. That said, defensively he's been mediocre so far, instead of god awful, so that's a bonus. Edited April 25, 2017 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Fangraphs ain't optimistic. Avisail Garcia | Chicago White Sox | .373/.420/.600 with 4 HR, 0 SB, 17 RBI, and 13 R in 81 PA Hasn’t shown major skill changes (22% K& is slightly better, but 17% SwStr% is flat) That SwStr% is 4th-highest in the league 7% BB rate is actually down from last year’s 8% Pitchers are getting ahead even more often w/73% F-Strike% (5th-highest) Still chasing too much with 39% O-Swing slotting 22nd in league and equal to 2016 (13th-worst) Getting more flyballs, but still only 28% Pulling the ball a lot more at a career-high 44% Riding a .471 BABIP & career-best 20% HR/FB OUTLOOK: It seems like Garcia is simply on a hot streak. There are no discernible skill improvements or approach changes behind the run. He might be selling out for more power a bit with the Pull rate, but that’s about all you can hang onto as a change. Looking at a .255 AVG/16 HR/5 SB bottom line. That means he’d hit about .235 the rest of the way if he puts up 550 at-bats. Sell… for anything. http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the-early...prises-hitters/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 01:25 PM) Avi has now passed the 70 PA threshold for K rate. He's at 23.5%. A good sign but he needs to continue to hit for power. His iso is dropping quickly and if you normalize his BABIP down to a more reasonable .340 instead of .457 his slash line goes down basically to his career stats. Frankly, looking at his stats this week, I don't see much room for optimism that he has really turned a corner. That said, defensively he's been mediocre so far, instead of god awful, so that's a bonus. Agreed. He'll come back down to earth eventually. His BABIP was like .470 before yesterday's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 02:58 AM) Fangraphs ain't optimistic. Yeah, I went to go look at the % increase in hard hit, line drives per last year, etc. It's all 4-5%. That's not bad, over the course of the year you'd expect that to be a better and more powerful offensive player, but it's not a dramatic difference unfortunately, a lot of it looks similar to 2015. The only thing is he is doing this despite getting fed more sinkers and sliders, and still managing to improve his LD%. I don't know. There may still be something here, maybe he does get to an .800 OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Avi is hitting ball harder this year no? His home runs and doubles have been hit extremely well while in the past they all looked like cheapies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 09:32 AM) Avi is hitting ball harder this year no? His home runs and doubles have been hit extremely well while in the past they all looked like cheapies Yes, just not at a significant increase over previous years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 We have seen Avi get hot before, exactly like this. There is not many reasons to believe this cat changed his stripes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Those who spend more time criticizing the White Sox than watching them might not have noticed that Avi has improved markedly as a hitter and as a fielder. Part of his improvement is due to substantial weight loss and physical conditioning. Avi has made adjustments at the plate with his approach. He is taking more pitches that are away and outside the strike zone. That has made pitchers throw him more pitches in the strike zone after they get down in the count. I don't know what the exit velocity is on Avi's hone runs but that missile he launched to center fired yesterday was one of the longest home runs I have seen to that part of the ballpark in a few years. He is waiting on pitches and watching the ball until contact. It has been impressive thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I missed the home run because I was in the middle of a post criticizing him, so glad that was cleared up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) I missed the home run because I was in the middle of a post criticizing him, so glad that was cleared up. I get it. hahahaha. omg so funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 11:07 AM) I get it. hahahaha. omg so funny! It's not supposed to be funny, it's highlighting that the audience your describing doesn't exist. All the things you wrote seem like they are true, but they've seemed like they've been true before with Avi over certain stretches. It's not clear that he has actually turned a corner, and people being skeptical about it is warranted considering he was bad for his first 2.5 years as a big leaguer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 09:57 AM) We have seen Avi get hot before, exactly like this. There is not many reasons to believe this cat changed his stripes Has he had a 20 game stretch where he has been THIS hot though? We're now 20 games in and Avi leads the AL in hitting, and is top 5 in OPS. I don't think he has suddenly become a star, but its pretty obvious that something has clicked. He is keeping is bat in the zone much longer. He isn't overswinging on every pitch. He is using the whole field. That, combined with his improved conditioning, and I think we have seen a young player that is finally coming into his own. I don't expect Avi to lead the league in hitting, or heck, even eclipse .300 by seasons end, but it does seem like perhaps we finally have an above average contributor with the bat. Time will tell, and I remain a little skeptical, but I believe more and more everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I am all for the advanced metrics but when you tell me a guy like Avi has been meh the past few weeks it totally confuses me and makes me question life itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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