TheTruth05 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 12, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) Guys like Swarzak, Kahnle, Jones, & Putnam would all make sense for pretty much any contender. If things break right, the Sox could have 5 legitimate high leverage relievers to deal before the trade deadline. Absolutely this.There will always be a market for relievers,especially closers.The last couple seasons have proven that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 12, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) Kahnle This is an interesting one because he is under control until 2021 and would be a great fit for when we are competing again. He is 27 years old. Of course if Hahn is blown away by an offer I would be happy to trade him, but I think we are better off holding onto this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Glover and Kelley activated. Hopefully they suck to prevent any further excuses by Rizzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 12, 2017 -> 03:44 PM) Glover and Kelley activated. Hopefully they suck to prevent any further excuses by Rizzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Chapman going on the DL, might NYY have interest in Robertson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ May 14, 2017 -> 11:04 AM) Chapman going on the DL, might NYY have interest in Robertson? Probably too early in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Shawn Kelley imploded for the Nats today. Hopefully trade talks for Robertson start to heat up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 14, 2017 -> 08:28 PM) Shawn Kelley imploded for the Nats today. Hopefully trade talks for Robertson start to heat up soon. Who do they have left to trade us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 14, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) Who do they have left to trade us? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-20-pros...gton-nationals/ I'm not going to pretend to be a scout, but Juan Soto and Carter Kieboom both look fairly intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 14, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) Who do they have left to trade us? More than enough. Robertson won't bring back Robles as part of a trade but the Nat's still have Fedde, Soto, Kieboom and Severino in their system all of which are quality prospects that should interest the Sox. I didn't include Glover since trading a reliever for a reliever doesn't help a team desperate that's for relievers. The Nat's easily have the pieces if Rizzo becomes serious about Robertson. http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 If it's Mets and Nats, that means the division race is pretty heated and that will drive up the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie for Manager Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ May 14, 2017 -> 02:55 PM) More than enough. Robertson won't bring back Robles as part of a trade but the Nat's still have Fedde, Soto, Kieboom and Severino in their system all of which are quality prospects that should interest the Sox. I didn't include Glover since trading a reliever for a reliever doesn't help a team desperate that's for relievers. The Nat's easily have the pieces if Rizzo becomes serious about Robertson. http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=was Why do people keep talking about Severino? He has never been a great hitter at any level? Unless he is the best defensive catcher ever then get another position player who has more offensive upside. He isnt even a top prospect for that Nats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (ecupittfan @ May 14, 2017 -> 03:12 PM) Why do people keep talking about Severino? He has never been a great hitter at any level? Unless he is the best defensive catcher ever then get another position player who has more offensive upside. He isnt even a top prospect for that Nats. He's an excellent defender, yes. I don't know how much of a factor the Mets will be with their injury issues. I would still hope the Sox could get something like Kieboom/Luzardo for DRob, but its still too early. I think next week at the very, very earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 14, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) Who do they have left to trade us? Juan Soto, Carter Kieboom, Severino Personally I would try to get Soto and Kieboom Edited May 14, 2017 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (ecupittfan @ May 14, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) Why do people keep talking about Severino? He has never been a great hitter at any level? Unless he is the best defensive catcher ever then get another position player who has more offensive upside. He isnt even a top prospect for that Nats. Because he's only 23 and already playing at AAA to go along with his defense, framing and game calling. Yes, his bat is weak and there have been plenty of defensive catchers that were starters. Look no further than the Sox very own Officer Ron Karkovice. If given a choice between a good offensive catcher with weak defense or a strong defensive catcher with a weak bat, I'll take the defense every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ May 14, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) Because he's only 23 and already playing at AAA to go along with his defense, framing and game calling. Yes, his bat is weak and there have been plenty of defensive catchers that were starters. Look no further than the Sox very own Officer Ron Karkovice. If given a choice between a good offensive catcher with weak defense or a strong defensive catcher with a weak bat, I'll take the defense every time. With Zack Collins improved defense this year I'm not sure we need Severino any more. That was the big question mark with Collins. But I would gladly take Soto and Kieboom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ May 14, 2017 -> 04:47 PM) With Zack Collins improved defense this year I'm not sure we need Severino any more. That was the big question mark with Collins. But I would gladly take Soto and Kieboom. I'm just as high on Collins as anyone but I'm not going to assume he sticks at catcher. Besides, even if Collins sticks, 1) he won't be ready for a few years 2) will need a backup anyway. Let's not forget that Collins is still in Winston-Salem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Is Severino really *that* good defensively? His bat wouldn't be an upgrade over Narvaez and as a framer Narvaez rates as around average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 14, 2017 -> 05:19 PM) Is Severino really *that* good defensively? His bat wouldn't be an upgrade over Narvaez and as a framer Narvaez rates as around average. Everything I've read has spoken well of Severino's defense. Just an example. 12) Pedro Severino, C, Grade C+: Age 23, from the Dominican Republic, hit .271/.316/.337 with two homers, 19 walks, 45 strikeouts in 291 at-bats in Triple-A; hit .321/.441/.607 in 28 at-bats in the majors; that’s a small-sample fluke; in a larger sample he’s a .250 hitter without much power, though he is young enough that may improve eventually; superior defensive catcher with strong throwing arm and receiving skills; will last for years as a reserve and may eventually hit enough to get beyond that. ETA 2017. https://www.google.com/amp/www.minorleagueb...spects-for-2017 Not trying to sell anyone on Severino, just saying why I'd take him as a non-headliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 ESPN's Tony Kornhiser went on a rant this evening on PTI about the Washington bullpen blowing more games this weekend. I don't know if the local media is getting on Rizzo yet, or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Maybe I'm overestimating the return, but I feel like Soto AND Kieboom would be an absolute haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ May 16, 2017 -> 12:55 AM) Maybe I'm overestimating the return, but I feel like Soto AND Kieboom would be an absolute haul. No way you get both unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2017 -> 08:32 PM) No way you get both unfortunately I'll gladly take Soto. Like that kid alot and he fits Hahn and Hostetler's OBP theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 All the WALKS. Follow the Astros' high OBP and slugging philosophy, it seems to be working well for them at the moment (not to mention not pulling the trigger on a "put them over the top" trade as of yet). In that division, there's nobody really pushing Houston, either. Bregman is their 7th best hitter at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2017 -> 08:32 PM) No way you get both unfortunately Not even for Swarzak, Robertson, and Frazier? Edited May 16, 2017 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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