Soxbadger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:20 PM) So you give me some source called walterfootball who mentions that he thinks Trubisky has more of a second round skill set and in the same post you try to tell me you think Peterman has the possibility as the best QB in the draft by which that same walterfootball said could potentially be a developmental backup. Jesus we just arent going to agree soxbadger. Its cool. I know we arent going to agree, its just that I am going based on my personal opinion after watching these players play. I think Trubisky is a complete wildcard, he could easily be worth #2 or he could completely flame out. As a Bears fan, I dont think the pick makes a ton of sense. They just signed Glennon, who probably isnt a HOF or Pro Bowler, and then they go out and pick a QB #2. It just doesnt seem to make sense. What made (imo) more sense, was you sign Glennon, you see what he can do as a starter. You pick BPA or trade down to get more picks. You take a QB in the middle rounds, because the risk is lower and there is plenty of history of guys after the 1st turning into serviceable QBs. After 2017 you then see where you are, if Glennon sucks, you probably have a top 10 pick in a draft with some interesting QBs (Darnold, Allen, Ross). At the end of the day, its just opinion. Its fun to look back at these discussions years later and see what happened. SS2k, No one is saying that QBs dont get overdrafted. When Tebow was drafted it was crazy, but that was also a really thin QB class. Top pick was Bradford coming off of an injury where he only played 3 games. Edited April 28, 2017 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:36 PM) Then next year if they are terrible they can trade back and get 2 first round picks and everyone will be so happy. If they pick Adams, he may be great, but he'd immediately be one of the highest paid safeties in the league. So when we are talking about value, that's also an issue. It's like taking a 1b in the top tfive of the baseball draft. CHEER FOR BEER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:47 PM) I know we arent going to agree, its just that I am going based on my personal opinion after watching these players play. I think Trubisky is a complete wildcard, he could easily be worth #2 or he could completely flame out. As a Bears fan, I dont think the pick makes a ton of sense. They just signed Glennon, who probably isnt a HOF or Pro Bowler, and then they go out and pick a QB #2. It just doesnt seem to make sense. What made (imo) more sense, was you sign Glennon, you see what he can do as a starter. You pick BPA or trade down to get more picks. You take a QB in the middle rounds, because the risk is lower and there is plenty of history of guys after the 1st turning into serviceable QBs. After 2017 you then see where you are, if Glennon sucks, you probably have a top 10 pick in a draft with some interesting QBs (Darnold, Allen, Ross). At the end of the day, its just opinion. Its fun to look back at these discussions years later and see what happened. SS2k, No one is saying that QBs dont get overdrafted. When Tebow was drafted it was crazy, but that was also a really thin QB class. Top pick was Bradford coming off of an injury where he only played 3 games. And this is by all accounts a thin QB class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Odds the Bears trade down? Has to be high. If not, I assume they take a DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:08 PM) Odds the Bears trade down? Has to be high. If not, I assume they take a DB. I could see them going TE (or even Robinson as an LT). But yes...I think they will trade down (unless they really have a high grade on a guy there at the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:08 PM) Odds the Bears trade down? Has to be high. If not, I assume they take a DB. I dont know a lot of good talent here so hard to pass. Cam Robinson/Sidney Jones would look good. Budda Baker is also interesting but undersized. If the Bears could move mid 2nd and grab some other picks that may be ideal, but otherwise no issues if they get a good lineman or db. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Robinson gone, think now the Bears can trade down and really not be too upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Looks like the Bears made a trade with Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Bears trade down swap 2nd get a 4th and 6th this year and a 4th next year from Arizona.............not bad Edited April 28, 2017 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:27 PM) Looks like the Bears made a trade with Arizona. Cards trade up for Kizer maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Cards probably taking Kizer. I wonder what we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:30 PM) Cards probably taking Kizer. I wonder what we got. From twitter (Brad Biggs) No. 36 and 7th rounder (No. 221) to #Cardinals for No. 45, 4th rd pick (No. 119), 6th rd pick (No. 197) and 2018 4th rounder. So id bet its Kizer and maybe Bears get Budda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 4th and 6th and a 4th next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:32 PM) 4th and 6th and a 4th next year They got the Cards 2nd too. So its a pretty big haul for a few spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Wow Arizona drafted Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) They got the Cards 2nd too. So its a pretty big haul for a few spots. Yup, excellent return when you're only dropping nine spots with plenty of talent still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:35 PM) Wow Arizona drafted Baker Besides for size hed have been higher, thought he may be there at Bears 45 pick. Lamp/Wilson/Jones still around. Could even see Bears go Tim Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 And just like that...we get some picks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I wouldn't be shocked if we danced again. Going back to...lots of depth in this draft and we can start to accumulate as many picks as possible within late 2nd and 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @adamjahns So in a sense, trading up for QB Mitch Trubisky essentially cost the #Bears a third-round pick (and some pick position). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Dang...I wanted the Utah safety to fall. He's going to be good, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 From Brad Biggs: are drafting TE Adam Shaheen with 45th overall pick in Round 2. He's a Division II player from Ashland. Dont know anything about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 Picking this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Bears pick Adam Shaheen TE Edited April 29, 2017 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 I got nothin. Crazy we won't get a CB this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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