Feeky Magee Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:34 PM) Wow. As weird as it is to say, I hadn't noticed he had gotten his average up to .183. Now to see if this taking walks stuff is real. I'm 90% sure I remember him saying that was something he worked on in the offseason/spring. BB% up from 6.5 in 2015 to 9.6 last year and 13.9 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:26 PM) Bums me out that this org saw fit to give Covey a shot at a 5th starter spot a year after it decided Junior Guerra hadn't earned one While I don't disagree, we also weren't rebuilding when Guerra was around. Edited May 2, 2017 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 terrible break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:36 PM) He's got to be one of the most mediocre starters the Sox have had in a while. Oh well, just needs to give innings while Rodon gets his arm amputated At least 2 of his 4 starts so far he has given us a chance to win. Tonight is getting away from us, but that was also a bad bounce to push the lead up. He has been playing with fire, but we aren't expecting him to even be average, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:36 PM) He's got to be one of the most mediocre starters the Sox have had in a while. Oh well, just needs to give innings while Rodon gets his arm amputated I'd give him back to the Athletics, try Swarzak for a couple of starts and promote Cory Luebke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Damn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 2, 2017 -> 02:43 AM) I'd give him back to the Athletics, try Swarzak for a couple of starts and promote Cory Luebke. Sounds like a good plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:44 PM) Sounds like a good plan I'm hesitant to f*** with Swarzak at all. He looks like a competent reliever, I'd rather not screw with one of the things that is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) While I don't disagree, we also weren't rebuilding when Guerra was around. I know, I just had to shoehorn that in somewhere. While we're on the subject of shoehorned White Sox dumbass pitching decisions, Chris Devenski, who we gave up for Brett f***ing Myers, has been *incredible* this season. 17.28 K/9 v 1.08 BB/9 in 16.2 IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:43 PM) I'd give him back to the Athletics, try Swarzak for a couple of starts and promote Cory Luebke. No way you mess with Swarzak right now. His velocity increase coincides with his switch to the bullpen. Plus what is the upside in converting him anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:45 PM) I'm hesitant to f*** with Swarzak at all. He looks like a competent reliever, I'd rather not screw with one of the things that is working. He's been a starter most of his career though. Not like it's something he's not comfortable with. And you'd know very quickly if it was something you wanted to continue (velocity would be a big indicator). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:47 PM) I know, I just had to shoehorn that in somewhere. While we're on the subject of shoehorned White Sox dumbass pitching decisions, Chris Devenski, who we gave up for Brett f***ing Myers, has been *incredible* this season. 17.28 K/9 v 1.08 BB/9 in 16.2 IP. Yeah, I haven't lost any sleep over that one. Sometimes s*** happens. Not gonna get em all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:47 PM) I know, I just had to shoehorn that in somewhere. While we're on the subject of shoehorned White Sox dumbass pitching decisions, Chris Devenski, who we gave up for Brett f***ing Myers, has been *incredible* this season. 17.28 K/9 v 1.08 BB/9 in 16.2 IP. Lol...yeah that one didn't work out for us. It's crazy how dominant Devenski has been with the Astros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:48 PM) No way you mess with Swarzak right now. His velocity increase coincides with his switch to the bullpen. Plus what is the upside in converting him anyways? It actually doesn't. He moved to the bullpen in 2012 and the velo started ticking up in 2015. The upside is obvious, he's worth more to the Sox as a competent 5th starter than a 6th inning guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ May 2, 2017 -> 02:50 AM) I'm not understanding the "We need to get rid of Covey right now" group. If no one is ready in AA or AAA (which is a whole different issue itself) then what are you even asking for at that point? A change just to make a change? I think he's gone when shields returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 2, 2017 -> 02:51 AM) It actually doesn't. He moved to the bullpen in 2012 and the velo started ticking up in 2015. The upside is obvious, he's worth more to the Sox as a competent 5th starter than a 6th inning guy. My thinking as well, and it's worth the risk IMO. He's never going to have trade value as a reliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:49 PM) He's been a starter most of his career though. Not like it's something he's not comfortable with. And you'd know very quickly if it was something you wanted to continue (velocity would be a big indicator). I understand where you're coming from but it's also been six years since he's really been a starter in any serious fashion. Again, it's personal preference but I'd prefer not to screw with something that is working for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:53 PM) I understand where you're coming from but it's also been six years since he's really been a starter in any serious fashion. Again, it's personal preference but I'd prefer not to screw with something that is working for now. I get it, I just don't see how even trying him for a spot start f***s with him so much that he's not the same guy if he goes back to the pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:50 PM) I'm not understanding the "We need to get rid of Covey right now" group. If no one is ready in AA or AAA (which is a whole different issue itself) then what are you even asking for at that point? A change just to make a change? Yeah, no reason to get rid of him until you have to. His purpose is to eat innings until his spot is needed for someone with long-term potential. Until then let him contribute to the rebuild by losing once a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 It's also a chance to evaluate him as well. When Shields comes back, maybe we leave Pelfrey in the rotation and see how Dylan's stuff would work in the pen. But there's really no harm in seeing what we can get out of him and seeing if he is worth keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ May 1, 2017 -> 09:00 PM) From an evaluation standpoint, I'd much rather have Covey in the rotation than Pelfrey. That ship has long sailed. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 The funny thing is we're ONLY going to be 1/2 game out of first place even if we lose tonight. At least the first month has been entertaining, and the trade deadline talk will make the middle of the season worth paying attention to, then there's the minor leaguers progressing and eventually impacting the big league team. Things could be a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 1, 2017 -> 08:55 PM) Yeah, no reason to get rid of him until you have to. His purpose is to eat innings until his spot is needed for someone with long-term potential. Until then let him contribute to the rebuild by losing once a week. I prefer the rebuilds that try various intriguing players as starters rather than just toss out random mediocre minor-leaguers to deliberately lose. Nobody's saying to promote Giolito or Lopez, just to try things out. There were also more intriguing Rule 5 options imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Narvaez has got to improve defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I just can't see Covey having any real future.... mediocre stuff with bad control.. doesn't equate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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