Shields / Rodon updates...

[Lip Man 1]

News isn't great for Shields, so much for that "quick" recovery and Rodon's is becoming more and more head scratching every day:

 

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...picId=27118146

 

Mark

 

[flavum]

Hahn is on the Score at 840 tomorrow morning. Hopefully he can say something about Rodon that doesn't sound like complete bs.

 

[ptatc]

News isn't great for Shields, so much for that "quick" recovery and Rodon's is becoming more and more head scratching every day:

 

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...picId=27118146

 

Mark

As I said before, there was no way a lat strain was just going to be a 10 day DL, especially with how conservative the medical team is being with everyone this year.

[Bob Sacamano]

As I said before, there was no way a lat strain was just going to be a 10 day DL, especially with how conservative the medical team is being with everyone this year.

 

I feel like they might as well move him to the 60-day dl. I mean, they could if they wanted to add someone to the 40 eventually.

[ptatc]

I feel like they might as well move him to the 60-day dl. I mean, they could if they wanted to add someone to the 40 eventually.

It really shouldn't be that long. Usually around 3 weeks or so. But with the way they are treating rehab this year who knows.

[flavum]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/audio/670-the-score-interviews/

 

Hahn was on the Score today. He was tight lipped about Rodon. Said he's in Arizona and when he's ready for a rehab start, they'll announce it.

 

Reading between the lines, I don't think we're going to hear much in May.

[steveno89]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/audio/670-the-score-interviews/

 

Hahn was on the Score today. He was tight lipped about Rodon. Said he's in Arizona and when he's ready for a rehab start, they'll announce it.

 

Reading between the lines, I don't think we're going to hear much in May.

 

Not good news on Shields or Rodon really

 

The benefit of being in rebuilding mode is that there is not much reason to hurry these players back to playing though

[Lip Man 1]

Not good news on Shields or Rodon really

 

The benefit of being in rebuilding mode is that there is not much reason to hurry these players back to playing though

 

Well in the cases of Shields, Putnam and Petricka if they don't pitch the Sox won't get anything for them in trade. I suspect all of those guys could bring back an A ball player in a deal which is better than nothing.

 

Also I saw this post elsewhere which to me, brings up some very valid points:

 

"The Sox have a right to be secretive, and I have a right to react accordingly to their secrecy. Therefore, I'm assuming we won't see Rodon at all this year.

 

The Sox have developed a habit of saying "oh, it won't be long," and then it turns out to be long. Happened with Jackson and Lawrie last year. It's happened with Tilson and Rodon this year, and it's possible Shields might be headed in that direction, as well.

 

I'm just going to assume from now on that the Sox are full of ****, and that every injury is more serious than they are saying."

This is reminding me of 2000-2001 when Sox pitchers were going down like fly's, there were charges of misdiagnosis's and Kenny had to hold a press conference angrily (is Kenny any other way?) defending the team doctors.

 

Mark

Edited May 3, 2017 by Lip Man 1

[chitownsportsfan]

Something weird is going on with Rodon.

 

I appears they are trying to put off the inevitable "exploratory surgery". FML.

[fathom]

I appears they are trying to put off the inevitable "exploratory surgery". FML.

 

When's the last time a pitcher missed a whole season without surgery or trying to recover from it

Edited May 3, 2017 by fathom

[Jose Abreu]

Something weird is going on with Rodon.

I was saying this in March when it was announced that he was healthy but resting throughout Spring Training and throughout the season. I really don't know why they're being so secretive with him.

[reiks12]

I was saying this in March when it was announced that he was healthy but resting throughout Spring Training and throughout the season. I really don't know why they're being so secretive with him.

 

Maybe personal issue? I am just as baffled as you are

[ptatc]

I appears they are trying to put off the inevitable "exploratory surgery". FML.

There really isn't that type of surgery anymore. With all of the advanced imaging, they usually have a pretty good idea of what's going on. It's usually the extant of the damage that isn't known prior to surgery. If they really thought this was an option he wouldn't be throwing at all.

 

However, as I've said from the beginning this case is so odd that anything is possible. I've don't recall a team being so conservative with all of these "reported" injuries, especially this team with Herm running the training staff.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

There really isn't that type of surgery anymore. With all of the advanced imaging, they usually have a pretty good idea of what's going on. It's usually the extant of the damage that isn't known prior to surgery. If they really thought this was an option he wouldn't be throwing at all.

 

However, as I've said from the beginning this case is so odd that anything is possible. I've don't recall a team being so conservative with all of these "reported" injuries, especially this team with Herm running the training staff.

So you think it's a lat issue. Most reports have said bicep bursitis . Could he have both or one led to the other ?

[ptatc]

So you think it's a lat issue. Most reports have said bicep bursitis . Could he have both or one led to the other ?

It's nearly impossible too tell. I had only seen a few lat issues in pitchers before Peavy came along but now it seems that ever other injury involves it. I used to see it in javelin throwers not pitchers. I'm still trying to figure that out. Pitchers do use the muscle extensively but it's such a big strong muscle that it's usually the smaller ones that cause issues. The distal attachment of the lat is right under the biceps tendon but not really close to the bursa. Although, I still don't buy the bursitis for the reasons I've mentioned earlier. Bursitis is a couple of weeks tops not 5-6 minimum.

 

There is something else going on but without doing the manual tests and seeing the imaging, who knows.

[Dick Allen]

This reminds me of Mark Prior. Nothing was wrong until it was. If we ever hear about towel drills, look out.

[ptatc]

This reminds me of Mark Prior. Nothing was wrong until it was. If we ever hear about towel drills, look out.

With Prior they at least said there was nothing and he kept trying to pitch. They finally determined is was like Danks' issue where the joint was just too loose and it was causing a number of issues.

 

With this they've reportedly determined what the issues is and are rehabbing it. Which is the correct rehab protocol just really have extended the time.

[southsider2k5]

There really isn't that type of surgery anymore. With all of the advanced imaging, they usually have a pretty good idea of what's going on. It's usually the extant of the damage that isn't known prior to surgery. If they really thought this was an option he wouldn't be throwing at all.

 

However, as I've said from the beginning this case is so odd that anything is possible. I've don't recall a team being so conservative with all of these "reported" injuries, especially this team with Herm running the training staff.

 

The one thing that randomly popped into my head is a disconnect between the parties, If the Sox are getting all of this data that show Rodon is OK, and Rodon still feels like he is hurting maybe that is the what the disconnect is about? Honestly I have no idea. I mean I would imagine if something were seriously wrong, they would just shut him down and look at surgery. You gain nothing from making him throw through a serious injury, and the Sox have never struck me as that sort of organization.

[BigHurt3515]

Rodon to 60 DL

[southsider2k5]

Dan Hayes‏Verified account @CSNHayes 9m9 minutes ago

 

Carlos Rodon was on DL retroactive to 3/30. If math is correct, this makes him eligible to return 5/29. #WhiteSox

 

[southsider2k5]

What that does is free up the roster spot for Holmberg in the mean time.

[Dick Allen]

The one thing that randomly popped into my head is a disconnect between the parties, If the Sox are getting all of this data that show Rodon is OK, and Rodon still feels like he is hurting maybe that is the what the disconnect is about? Honestly I have no idea. I mean I would imagine if something were seriously wrong, they would just shut him down and look at surgery. You gain nothing from making him throw through a serious injury, and the Sox have never struck me as that sort of organization.

KW literally called Lorenzo Barcelo, the guy who was supposed to be the crown jewel in the white flag trade a p**** for complaining about pain, and they played the dance with him for a while. In the end, he required both elbow and shoulder surgery.

 

There seems to be more wrong than the Sox had hoped here. I don't think the 60 day DL is a big deal because he wasn't going to be back before that was up anyway. But this has gone on way too long with what seems like a ton of super secrecy.

[fathom]

Rodon has thrown off a mound

[bmags]

Glad to hear of some progress. Fingers crossed we don't hear "Rodon taking a break" anytime soon.

[ptatc]

The one thing that randomly popped into my head is a disconnect between the parties, If the Sox are getting all of this data that show Rodon is OK, and Rodon still feels like he is hurting maybe that is the what the disconnect is about? Honestly I have no idea. I mean I would imagine if something were seriously wrong, they would just shut him down and look at surgery. You gain nothing from making him throw through a serious injury, and the Sox have never struck me as that sort of organization.

Always possible.