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QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 3, 2017 -> 10:34 AM)
Not sure how accurate this radar gun is but Giolito's only throwing 88-90

 

Minor league gun is a touch slow, but he isn't throwing 95+ out there. No idea why they aren't calling for his curveball more.

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 3, 2017 -> 10:48 AM)
Giolito really sucks. So many excuses made for him being a disaster

 

Not ready to give up on a 22 year old former top prospect just yet. He clearly isn't right but it's a long season.

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 3, 2017 -> 10:48 AM)
Giolito really sucks. So many excuses made for him being a disaster

 

I know he isn't fixed yet like we all thought he would be but this is still premature,no? disaster? cmon.

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:50 PM)
You've just been waiting to say this, haven't you?

 

I liked the Eaton trade, but to me he looks like the same exact pitcher who had a fastball that got destroyed in the majors. He seems to be a major reclamation project now, which I doubt Hahn had in mind.

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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ May 3, 2017 -> 10:52 AM)
I know he isn't fixed yet like we all thought he would be but this is still premature,no? disaster? cmon.

It's SUPER premature. Look, the velocity is absolutely a concern and something to pay attention to but it's also not as crazy bad as fathom has been going off on lately. He could be working on stuff, he could be trying to get his mechanics straight or he might just be off to a really bad start. All I know is he's a 22 year old in AAA who has had success in the past and whose breaking ball is at least missing bats at the moment. He's a project at this point but to call him is a disaster is even too fathom-y for fathom.

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:57 PM)
It's SUPER premature. Look, the velocity is absolutely a concern and something to pay attention to but it's also not as crazy bad as fathom has been going off on lately. He could be working on stuff, he could be trying to get his mechanics straight or he might just be off to a really bad start. All I know is he's a 22 year old in AAA who has had success in the past and whose breaking ball is at least missing bats at the moment. He's a project at this point but to call him is a disaster is even too fathom-y for fathom.

 

It's not even just the velocity, but just going by the hard contact off of him this year, it doesn't appear his spin rate has drastically improved. The swings that the opposition gets off the fastball are scary.

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