Start Next Phase on June 13th

[Thomas_Ventura_Roberts]

With the amateur draft on June 12th, June 13th would be a good time to start crafting the next phase of the rebuilding White Sox. Some of our young players in the minors can certainly keep getting experience until then, and we will have more clarity about how the draft went in terms of hitters versus pitchers balance. I'm sure the White Sox are expecting the draft to yield a nice balance between the two, but it could turn out to be a draft where the best available players leaned more to one side than the other.

 

One way or the other, I'd like to see 2-3 veteran players traded by mid-June with the idea of getting some young players a chance to play more regularly on the big league club.

[caulfield12]

Realistically, the only two young players that would be added are going to be Delmonico/Hayes...unless you want to get rid of Soto/Narvaez for Kevan Smith.

 

Saladino or Sanchez would get more playing time, depending on what they do with Moncada.

 

Maybe Willy Garcia, he'd be the other choice, or Rymer Liriano.

 

 

Then you've got Carson Fulmer, maybe Lopez when he improves his control and Burdi. Doesn't seem like we're going to see any wholesale changes.

[oldsox]

With the amateur draft on June 12th, June 13th would be a good time to start crafting the next phase of the rebuilding White Sox. Some of our young players in the minors can certainly keep getting experience until then, and we will have more clarity about how the draft went in terms of hitters versus pitchers balance. I'm sure the White Sox are expecting the draft to yield a nice balance between the two, but it could turn out to be a draft where the best available players leaned more to one side than the other.

 

One way or the other, I'd like to see 2-3 veteran players traded by mid-June with the idea of getting some young players a chance to play more regularly on the big league club.

Trouble is, the more Melky and Frazier play, the less value they have. Robertson is another story. He has some value and is tradable. The other two,......you probably can't give them away right now.

[Bob Sacamano]

With the amateur draft on June 12th, June 13th would be a good time to start crafting the next phase of the rebuilding White Sox. Some of our young players in the minors can certainly keep getting experience until then, and we will have more clarity about how the draft went in terms of hitters versus pitchers balance. I'm sure the White Sox are expecting the draft to yield a nice balance between the two, but it could turn out to be a draft where the best available players leaned more to one side than the other.

 

One way or the other, I'd like to see 2-3 veteran players traded by mid-June with the idea of getting some young players a chance to play more regularly on the big league club.

 

They'd love to trade anyone they can ASAP but it's not that easy. No one is looking to trade now and some guys we have to deal are not doing well/have no market.

[daggins]

Trouble is, the more Melky and Frazier play, the less value they have. Robertson is another story. He has some value and is tradable. The other two,......you probably can't give them away right now.

 

Frazier and Melky might be more waiver trade guys. That's fine - aside from Delmonico, there isn't anyone in Charlotte hitting their way to Chicago, and the Sox can always ditch Asche. The July deadline trades will almost certainly be all pitching. Aside from Robertson, who could go any day, really, I don't expect action to pick up until late June.

[SCCWS]

Realistically, the only two young players that would be added are going to be Delmonico/Hayes...unless you want to get rid of Soto/Narvaez for Kevan Smith.

 

Saladino or Sanchez would get more playing time, depending on what they do with Moncada.

 

Maybe Willy Garcia, he'd be the other choice, or Rymer Liriano.

 

 

Then you've got Carson Fulmer, maybe Lopez when he improves his control and Burdi. Doesn't seem like we're going to see any wholesale changes.

 

Hayes is struggling offensively at AAA and Delmonico has been awful defensively Both need more time.

 

[Dick Allen]

With the amateur draft on June 12th, June 13th would be a good time to start crafting the next phase of the rebuilding White Sox. Some of our young players in the minors can certainly keep getting experience until then, and we will have more clarity about how the draft went in terms of hitters versus pitchers balance. I'm sure the White Sox are expecting the draft to yield a nice balance between the two, but it could turn out to be a draft where the best available players leaned more to one side than the other.

 

One way or the other, I'd like to see 2-3 veteran players traded by mid-June with the idea of getting some young players a chance to play more regularly on the big league club.

This isn't the NFL or NBA. The guys the Sox get in the draft might not be able to help them for 4 or 5 years.

 

Why is there such a rush to see what the young guys can do? I thought rebuilding was all about patience and development. Let them stay down and dominate for a while if they are ready. Calling them up too soon is something the White Sox have been rightly criticized for doing by a lot of people, including most of this board. I would love to see Yoan Moncada play every day. But I would rather see him play everyday for years instead of watching him struggle and go back down to AAA.

 

Look at how many ABs these guys have above A ball, but call em up at the first sign of being hot. That hasn't worked. Let them spend the season in AAA. Call them up in September. It isn't like you have to get them some experience so next year they are ready to win a title.

 

What does calling these guys up before the end of their season accomplish long term?

Edited May 9, 2017 by Dick Allen

[Bob Sacamano]

This isn't the NFL or NBA. The guys the Sox get in the draft might not be able to help them for 4 or 5 years.

 

Why is there such a rush to see what the young guys can do? I thought rebuilding was all about patience and development. Let them stay down and dominate for a while if they are ready. Calling them up too soon is something the White Sox have been rightly criticized for doing by a lot of people, including most of this board. I would love to see Yoan Moncada play every day. But I would rather see him play everyday for years instead of watching him struggle and go back down to AAA.

 

Look at how many ABs these guys have above A ball, but call em up at the first sign of being hot. That hasn't worked. Let them spend the season in AAA. Call them up in September. It isn't like you have to get them some experience so next year they are ready to win a title.

 

What does calling these guys up before the end of their season accomplish long term?

 

It is, but many here don't have it, yet wanted a rebuild.

[Dick Allen]

It is, but many here don't have it, yet wanted a rebuild.

Its odd. For many who seemingly want the White Sox to have the worst record in baseball, they need every player not performing at a high level replaced on what seems a daily basis.

 

This team has way outperformed what they will be. Holland, Shields when he pitched, the bullpen, Gonzalez, Avi, Davidson, Leury...reality is going to hit soon, and they are only .500 now. They will be even worse, so the complaints will only increase. The calls for prospects to be called up, not ready for the big leagues will increase. Rebuilds sucks.

 

Delmonico people want to call him up. Nobody wanted the Sox to call up Leury Garcia last year. Look at their offensive stats in Charlotte. Pretty similar. If the Sox called Leury up last year to DH, people would have laughed. If Delmonico is a major leaguer, he will be the first to let you know. There is no rush.

Edited May 9, 2017 by Dick Allen

[SCCWS]

Its odd. For many who seemingly want the White Sox to have the worst record in baseball, they need every player not performing at a high level replaced on what seems a daily basis.

 

This team has way outperformed what they will be. Holland, Shields when he pitched, the bullpen, Gonzalez, Avi, Davidson, Leury...reality is going to hit soon, and they are only .500 now. They will be even worse, so the complaints will only increase. The calls for prospects to be called up, not ready for the big leagues will increase. Rebuilds sucks.

 

Delmonico people want to call him up. Nobody wanted the Sox to call up Leury Garcia last year. Look at their offensive stats in Charlotte. Pretty similar. If the Sox called Leury up last year to DH, people would have laughed. If Delmonico is a major leaguer, he will be the first to let you know. There is no rush.

 

Last I looked, he had 8 of the 15 errors Charlotte has made. He either covers a lot of ground or needs a lot of time in AAA. Unless he is going to DH.

 

[ChiSox59]

Last I looked, he had 8 of the 15 errors Charlotte has made. He either covers a lot of ground or needs a lot of time in AAA. Unless he is going to DH.

 

Delmonico isn't going to stick as an everyday 3B. But he has a nice bat, and will be up this summer sometime.

[Dick Allen]

Last I looked, he had 8 of the 15 errors Charlotte has made. He either covers a lot of ground or needs a lot of time in AAA. Unless he is going to DH.

A lot has been made about range factor etc. and how errors is an old school stat that meant very little. However, over the last 3 seasons, the team that has made fewer errors in a game has won over 62% of the time.