southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Dan HayesVerified account @CSNHayes 4m4 minutes ago Re: Yoan Moncada, Rick Hahn and the #WhiteSox want to see all the proof. He's going to be at Charlotte for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 If only they brought Avi along like this...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ May 9, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) If only they brought Avi along like this...... So you would like to see Moncada stay in the minors for about 700 more AB's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 THE REBUILD IS A FRAUD!!! Glad to see that though, stay true to the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I've made it clear that I think it's best for him to be in the majors as quickly as possible but I'm not going to complain about it either. Hope he continues to kill it down in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Was hoping he'd be up to see him in Arizona. Jerks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) So you would like to see Moncada stay in the minors for about 700 more AB's? This board would go into full meltdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 It's less about development and more about money which I guess makes sense. By keeping him down until middle of July I think they'll save about 8-10 million. Sure he can work on his defense but there's little if any development left to do with his bat. I can't say I'm surprised but I am disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Let him learn his trade without being rushed for a full minor league year. Cal him up September 1, not before in my opinion. Edited May 9, 2017 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Same birthday as Frank Thomas, and Frank didn't come up until August 2 for a good team. Whatever gets them more control and save some bucks, it's fine. He's young. Edited May 9, 2017 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Has about 350 plate appearances above A ball. Great prospect still fans too much. Games in Chicago are meaningless. If he is going to be a star let him show us for a few months in AAA. Totally about development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Rick Hahn on #WhiteSox prospect Yoan Moncada: 'We're not going to rush this' -- https://t.co/nGWdt6GztG (@CSNHayes) #WhiteSoxTalk https://t.co/DyM4ksXipp https://twitter.com/CSNChicago/status/862098251478171649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 The 30% strike out rate doesn't concern anyone? Although he is on pace to hit 30 homers, he only has 3 doubles and 1 triple, which isn't much for a guy with his speed. I don't think that it is accurate to say that he is dominating AAA. He certainly has not done enough to suggest that he has nothing more to prove, at that level. Striking out 30% of the time, while compiling 10 extra base hits, and driving in only 11 runs, in the first 28 games, is not awe-inspiring. Considering his age, what exactly is the hurry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (Lillian @ May 10, 2017 -> 04:41 AM) The 30% strike out rate doesn't concern anyone? Although he is on pace to hit 30 homers, he only has 3 doubles and 1 triple, which isn't much for a guy with his speed. I don't think that it is accurate to say that he is dominating AAA. He certainly has not done enough to suggest that he has nothing more to prove, at that level. Striking out 30% of the time, while compiling 10 extra base hits, and driving in only 11 runs, in the first 28 games, is not awe-inspiring. Considering his age, what exactly is the hurry? If you're evaluating a prospect by RBI's, you're doing it wrong. Agree on the K rate, there is room for improvement there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 He's been batting leadoff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Check out our very own raBBit on the score this morning discussing this very subject. He got up early and was on at 6:45, so you will have to listen to the podcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Based on errors, it seems like his defense has improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I am glad we are taking this route though I'm anxious to see him. I have not been able to see much, but when he comes up he is going to get a steady stream of breaking pitches. He's had success in AAA feasting on first pitch fastballs (it seems), longer he is down there the more adjustments those pitchers can make and he can adjust with less pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Is there a place to find ISO for minor leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) Is there a place to find ISO for minor leagues? It's listed on Fangraphs. Moncada's ISO is currently .204. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) Is there a place to find ISO for minor leagues? Huh? It's just SLG-AVG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:50 AM) It's listed on Fangraphs. Moncada's ISO is currently .204. I guess I could have done that math on my own, but there you go. Another weakness from Lillian he is actually good in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) Huh? It's just SLG-AVG. Thanks, I forgot that part and remembered after omar's response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:58 AM) I guess I could have done that math on my own, but there you go. Another weakness from Lillian he is actually good in. Yes, this is partially a money driven move, but I'm not discounting the fact that Moncada is not a finished product and still needs to work on defense and reducing his strikeout % Boston rushed him to the majors last year and the results were not good. Why short Yoan a few crucial months of minor league development before he is up at the mlb level for good? He'll force his way to Chicago soon enough, and until then we can all wait in anticipation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I understand it's a fine line with someone like Moncada. He's pretty much dominating in AAA, and on the surface it's easy to say bring him up. But, if it's being communicated to him, and he understands, that he should be using this time down there to work on his strikeout rate and defense, he's going to be that much better when he does come up. Plus, I think we can all agree that the Sox, despite the nice start, will not be competing for the division. Bringing Moncada up now may improve the second base situation and add some life to the lineup, but it wouldn't make a big difference in the overall scheme of things. I watched a few innings of Sunday's Knights game. Moncada looked great. It's going to be exciting when he gets the call. We're just going to have to wait a while...and we should be okay with that. Edited May 10, 2017 by pittshoganerkoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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