ron883 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Nicky D is knocking on the door, and matt Davidson needs ABs. What we do to move Todd? Keep playing him for trade value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) Nicky D is knocking on the door, and matt Davidson needs ABs. What we do to move Todd? Keep playing him for trade value? That's my stance. It's really a shame he hasn't hit at all. You gotta play him and hope he gets hot at the right time. If he doesn't get hot, and you can't trade him for anything, then as the deadline passes I bench him all but 1-2 games a week and let the kids play as rosters expand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 DFA him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Nicky D is knocking on the door, and matt Davidson needs ABs. What we do to move Todd? Keep playing him for trade value? His numbers are DFA-worthy. Maybe they shouldn't play him until June. Is it safe to say that pitchers have figured him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Trade him to the White Sox for Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 The thing with Todd is 1. Had has people behind him who can take over. Jose, while nothing special when you account for his defense, has nobody knocking on his door. 2. Todd doesn't have the weird cult following that Jose does. jose could bat .200 for the season and youd have people here defending how great he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:09 AM) The thing with Todd is 1. Had has people behind him who can take over. Jose, while nothing special when you account for his defense, has nobody knocking on his door. 2. Todd doesn't have the weird cult following that Jose does. jose could bat .200 for the season and youd have people here defending how great he is. lol, salty much? The reason Abreu gets slack around here is because he has a history of being a productive hitter who bounces back from long slumps. Glad to see you have moved on to your next target though, hopefully this has the same results for Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:09 AM) The thing with Todd is 1. Had has people behind him who can take over. Jose, while nothing special when you account for his defense, has nobody knocking on his door. 2. Todd doesn't have the weird cult following that Jose does. jose could bat .200 for the season and youd have people here defending how great he is. Literally the same guys you mention for Frazier, Jose is playing a spot they can play. If they trade Todd and dfa Asche, you can slide Jose into the DH spot and play Delmonico and Davidson at either corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:25 AM) Literally the same guys you mention for Frazier, Jose is playing a spot they can play. If they trade Todd and dfa Asche, you can slide Jose into the DH spot and play Delmonico and Davidson at either corner. Davidson has already started his slide back to normalcy going 2 of his last 26, 8K, 4BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (knightni @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) His numbers are DFA-worthy. Maybe they shouldn't play him until June. Is it safe to say that pitchers have figured him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:40 AM) Davidson has already started his slide back to normalcy going 2 of his last 26, 8K, 4BB Even better: keep Abreu at 1B, move Melky to DH (if not traded), and play W. Garcia in LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:09 AM) The thing with Todd is 1. Had has people behind him who can take over. Jose, while nothing special when you account for his defense, has nobody knocking on his door. 2. Todd doesn't have the weird cult following that Jose does. jose could bat .200 for the season and youd have people here defending how great he is. You do realize that only about 100 players in the entire history of major league baseball have a career OPS above .873, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:47 AM) Even better: keep Abreu at 1B, move Melky to DH (if not traded), and play W. Garcia in LF. I am way more excited about Garcia than I am Davidson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ May 10, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) You do realize that only about 100 players in the entire history of major league baseball have a career OPS above .873, right? That's some good cherry picking. Jose has been in the league from ages 27-30. Those are pretty prime years. I doubt it's all that impressive when you compare OPS from the ages of 27 to 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) That's some good cherry picking. Jose has been in the league from ages 27-30. Those are pretty prime years. I doubt it's all that impressive when you compare OPS from the ages of 27 to 30. He's having a good year on top of a great second half. I'm not really all too sure what else he should be doing to satisfy your ludicrous expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Count on the mods to derail a thread. Keep up the good work boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Count on the mods to derail a thread. Keep up the good work boys. Yes, your ridiculous trolling of Jose Abreu wasn't the start of this derailment. Please, by all means, go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just let him keep playing until you get something interesting for him. Back end top 100 guy probably out of the question at this point. But don't just trade him for minor league depth. No point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 10, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) DFA him. Honestly this isn't an awful idea. See if you can work out a trade and if nobody picks him up he's just back on the club like nothing happened in a couple weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 10, 2017 -> 11:52 AM) Honestly this isn't an awful idea. See if you can work out a trade and if nobody picks him up he's just back on the club like nothing happened in a couple weeks It is an awful idea. If the Sox wanted to GIVE Frazier away for nothing, they'd be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) That's some good cherry picking. Jose has been in the league from ages 27-30. Those are pretty prime years. I doubt it's all that impressive when you compare OPS from the ages of 27 to 30. If I'm using basebell reference correctly, there are 104 players with a career OPS of .873 or greater. http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-ind...umber_matched=1 If you change that to only the period from age 27 to 30, that number increases to 183 players. http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-ind...umber_matched=1 I'm not a subscriber so I can't see the full list, just the total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ May 10, 2017 -> 11:52 AM) It is an awful idea. If the Sox wanted to GIVE Frazier away for nothing, they'd be able to. Eh, if you assume there are multiple clubs interested, then the Sox will be able to make a trade. I mean what's the downside risk? You lose a shot at a C+ prospect in July? The upside is you get the same prospect, maybe you gotta throw in some cash, but you clear a roster spot for Delmonico and Davidson, two guys who will actually be around for the next good Sox team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (ron883 @ May 10, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Count on the mods to derail a thread. Keep up the good work boys. It's a message board, threads get derailed, get used to it. What the White Sox are going to do with Todd Frazier is keep playing him. Do you want me to lock this thread now since the discussion has reached its conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 10, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) Eh, if you assume there are multiple clubs interested, then the Sox will be able to make a trade. I mean what's the downside risk? You lose a shot at a C+ prospect in July? The upside is you get the same prospect, maybe you gotta throw in some cash, but you clear a roster spot for Delmonico and Davidson, two guys who will actually be around for the next good Sox team. The Delmonico of a couple of years ago is the exact kind of prospect the Sox will be targeting in a Frazier deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Do the reporters even ask Hahn about Tilson, or have they also forgotten he is a White Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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