Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As

[Whisox05]

Nats already checking the market for closers. here are some names they have internally discussed https://t.co/XZSman6dgh

https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/865262238143094784

 

CThe Washington Nationals have begun making calls now for closer, and while they haven’t found anyone who’s immediately available, David Robertson is very likely to become available and perhaps makes the most sense."

[BlackSox13]

Would be nice to see Robertson go on a hot streak right about now.

[Boopa1219]

Let's say Robertson is performing well... when looking at what some teams have paid to get closers at the deadline for playoff runs, is Robles really too much to ask?

[fathom]

Let's say Robertson is performing well... when looking at what some teams have paid to get closers at the deadline for playoff runs, is Robles really too much to ask?

 

Easily too much. Soto or Kieboom probably too much unless Sox pay a ton of money.

[yesterday333]

Let's say Robertson is performing well... when looking at what some teams have paid to get closers at the deadline for playoff runs, is Robles really too much to ask?

yes

[turnin' two]

Let's say Robertson is performing well... when looking at what some teams have paid to get closers at the deadline for playoff runs, is Robles really too much to ask?

 

 

Yep. Well, I mean you can ask. But it would seem he is far too well regarded to expect. Yeah, Chapman and Miller brought back returns of similarly ranked players, and while Robertson is a top tier reliever and even a good closer, he is not in the same category as either of those two.

[daggins]

IF Robertson continues to pitch well, I think one of Soto or Kieboom is probably the max ask, with some money going back as well. Robles is probably not available for anyone, except for a good, cost controlled SP or OF.

[FT35]

Robertson for Eaton!?!?

[Jose Abreu]

"begin"

 

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[footlongcomiskeydog]

Let's say Robertson is performing well... when looking at what some teams have paid to get closers at the deadline for playoff runs, is Robles really too much to ask?

 

 

There is no way in hell that Robertson brings back Robles. Rizzo would hang up the phone on that ask and instruct Hahn to call back when he is serious. Robertson is severely overvalued around these parts. He is not that good and won't bring back much at all.

[shipps]

There is no way in hell that Robertson brings back Robles. Rizzo would hang up the phone on that ask and instruct Hahn to call back when he is serious. Robertson is severely overvalued around these parts. He is not that good and won't bring back much at all.

 

He is probably the best option out there and it would be for a desperate team needing a closer. Market value is different from actual value. I agree he probably doesnt bring back Robles but I think you are underestimating what he could bring back. to say he wont bring back much at all.

[turnin' two]

There is no way in hell that Robertson brings back Robles. Rizzo would hang up the phone on that ask and instruct Hahn to call back when he is serious. Robertson is severely overvalued around these parts. He is not that good and won't bring back much at all.

 

 

Yeah, I don't know about that. He is at very least a middle of the road closer and a dynamic set up guy. Those guys always have decent value.

[harfman77]

Three months of Chapman brought back a top five prospect in baseball, a major league starter, and a third top 10 org prospect. 15 months of Robertson is going to have some significant value at the deadline with few legit closers on the market. Robertson is paid a little below market value now based on the contracts handed out to closers last offseason and will bring back value with his combination of track record, value, and control. Robles is probably off the table, but given market conditions and the value established last season, no one is else in that system should be unattainable.

[maxjusttyped]

Teams are definitely willing to pay a premium for relievers at the trade deadline. The fact the Yankees were able to get Gleyber Torres (and Billy McKinney!) for ~2 months of Chapman is absurd. But Robles for Robertson isn't happening.

[Bob Sacamano]

We need to deal with a team rich in prospects/youth as well. That's the difference between the Yankees and Indians/Cubs deals and the Sox potentially dealing with the Nationals.

[Boopa1219]

Yep. Well, I mean you can ask. But it would seem he is far too well regarded to expect. Yeah, Chapman and Miller brought back returns of similarly ranked players, and while Robertson is a top tier reliever and even a good closer, he is not in the same category as either of those two.

 

You're right in that he's not in their category but he has to be the top reliever on the market?

[Bob Sacamano]

You're right in that he's not in their category but he has to be the top reliever on the market?

 

Unless the Rays decide to make Colome available. He's been pretty good.

[turnin' two]

Since becoming a full tine closer, Robertson has a save % just above 85%.

 

The NL East:

Jeurys Familia is 86%

AJ Ramos is 82%

Jim Johnson is 80%

Hector Neris is 55% (very few opportunities)

 

So, Robertson would pretty much become the best closer in the division. Some others, for reference.

 

 

Kenley Jansen has a % of about 89%

Francisco Rodriguez is about 85%

Huston Street is 86%

Roberto Osuno is 83%

Zach Britton is 94%

Aroldis Chapman 90%

Seung Hwan Oh 85%

Wade Davis 87%

Mariano Rivera 89%

 

 

So by comparison, Robertson is a serviceable closer, and more importantly a huge upgrade over anything the Nats currently have.

 

[turnin' two]

As someone else already mentioned, I think a Soto or Carter Kieboom could be targets, and if either were available, the Sox should jump at it (at least I were if I were running things... hmm.. too bad I'm not, for me anyway).

[shipps]

They should go hard of Robles as if thats all they will do it for with all the intentions on getting Kieboom or Soto as the "compromise".

 

See, its easy.

[Bob Sacamano]

I think one of Soto/Kieboom and a couple lesser prospects could get it done. I don't how much money exchanges hands though. I guess that is assuming Nats take on remainder.

[turnin' two]

They should go hard of Robles as if thats all they will do it for with all the intentions on getting Kieboom or Soto as the "compromise".

 

See, its easy.

 

 

Or you start your ask with both Soto and Kieboom.

[footlongcomiskeydog]

Unless the Rays decide to make Colome available. He's been pretty good.

 

 

Colome is a stud. I'm sure he is the guy that Rizzo is after. Herrera from KC is probably option #2 on their list with Robertson coming in as #3.

 

The Nats will take their time on this since the NL East is so bad. That just leaves more time for Robertson to decrease his value by pitching poorly and/or get hurt like Jones, Putnam, Petrickia, etc.

 

 

[soxforlife05]

Or you start your ask with both Soto and Kieboom.

 

Soto and Kieboom git r done Hahn

[SoxAce]

Three months of Chapman brought back a top five prospect in baseball, a major league starter, and a third top 10 org prospect.

 

Yep, although Chapman is night and day better than Robertson.