steveno89 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 10:47 AM) Robertson may end up being the cheapest available but I wouldn't expect significantly more than what was initially agreed upon. I don't think the Nationals will part with Robles or Fedde under pretty much any circumstances, Soto and/or Kieboom, Neuse, Luzardo, Marmolejos, etc. all could be in play if they are serious about getting any deal for impact relief help done. Sucks for them because their farm is far thinner than it was before the Eaton deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 11:04 AM) I don't think the Nationals will part with Robles or Fedde under pretty much any circumstances, Soto and/or Kieboom, Neuse, Luzardo, Marmolejos, etc. all could be in play if they are serious about getting any deal for impact relief help done. Sucks for them because their farm is far thinner than it was before the Eaton deal. The difference between the overpay of the Cubs and Indians when the Yankees dealt away their 2 prized relievers. Edited June 13, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) Apparently neither of you two have negotiated much in your life. SNARK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 11:06 AM) The difference between the overpay of the Cubs and Indians when the Yankees dealt away their 2 prized relievers. I expect Rizzo and Nats ownership to kick the tires on getting something done sooner instead of later. Robles is their in house replacement for Harper when he leaves after next season, so I don not think they plan on moving him. Fedde is nearly mlb ready and I do not think they move him either. The only prospects beyond those two that will realistically return impact help will be either Kieboom or Soto. Neuse and Stephenson are solid prospects, but Stephenson looks like a 4th OF at the mlb level due to the lack of power and Neuse is solid, if unspectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) SNARK No, that is substantive commentary relevant to the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I cannot wait to see Washington blow another one tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 08:14 PM) I cannot wait to see Washington blow another one tonight! Even if they win, make it uncomfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Robertson, Kahnle, Swarzak and Beck would all be upgrades for the Nats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 08:56 PM) Robertson, Kahnle, Swarzak and Beck would all be upgrades for the Nats. One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 07:56 PM) Robertson, Kahnle, Swarzak and Beck would all be upgrades for the Nats. Hell, I would give them 2 of the first 3 and 3 of the 4 if the package was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 10:02 PM) One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong... Beck has looked quite good outta the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 He's been solid, but he's a middle reliever, whereas those other three are absolutely high leverage guys. Teams need guys like Beck to win games, but guys like Beck don't bring much in trades. For the most part, teams can find their own Beck, but not everyone can find a Kahnle or Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 11:28 PM) He's been solid, but he's a middle reliever, whereas those other three are absolutely high leverage guys. Teams need guys like Beck to win games, but guys like Beck don't bring much in trades. For the most part, teams can find their own Beck, but not everyone can find a Kahnle or Robertson. Meanwhile the Nats can't find any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Baseball ReferenceVerified account @baseball_ref 11m11 minutes ago The #Nationals have lost 5 of their last 6 games, giving up 45 runs in that span http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/WSN/2017-schedule-scores.shtml …://http://www.baseball-reference.com/t...-scores.shtml … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 11:40 PM) Meanwhile the Nats can't find any I mean, we've been there, with Beck himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Oh man is the pressure on Rizzo. There's really no choice but for Rizzo to accept that going to get bent over in trades to get that team help. Sure, Rizzo can try trading for more Albers types but he will need a solid closer as well as at least one set up arm and those are going to leaves Rizzo with the sensation of being reamed, again. The Sox had their eye on Crowe until the Nat's snatched him up. Wouldn't mind if a trade changed his name to 'ptbnl' until the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) Oh man is the pressure on Rizzo. There's really no choice but for Rizzo to accept that going to get bent over in trades to get that team help. Sure, Rizzo can try trading for more Albers types but he will need a solid closer as well as at least one set up arm and those are going to leaves Rizzo with the sensation of being reamed, again. The Sox had their eye on Crowe until the Nat's snatched him up. Wouldn't mind if a trade changed his name to 'ptbnl' until the season is over. Can't do that anymore. A draft pick cannot be traded or a PTBNL until after the World Series of his draft year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 02:34 PM) Can't do that anymore. A draft pick cannot be traded or a PTBNL until after the World Series of his draft year. Thanks for clarifying. Wasn't sure if that was part of the changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Nats about to sign edwin jackson. Should solve their issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 02:54 PM) Nats about to sign edwin jackson. Should solve their issues. Bryce Harper may kill someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 11:54 AM) Nats about to sign edwin jackson. Should solve their issues. Well s***. Time to find a new suitor for Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 01:54 PM) Nats about to sign edwin jackson. Should solve their issues. Nothing like the smell of half assed desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Won't that break the All-Time record for most MLB teams played for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) Won't that break the All-Time record for most MLB teams played for? It won't, he was on the Nats in 2012, so he'd still be at 12. Edited June 16, 2017 by Sleepy Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 So Jackson is on the Nats and Holmberg on the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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