KnightsOnMintSt Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I don't think we get a Chapman like return for Robertson, but the trade really shows how valuable a good closer is for teams these days. And the White Sox have extra bullpen pieces like Kahnle and Swarzak. I expect a very nice return for when we trade Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) I never said they didn't have to make a move to win post season. Go back and look. That was never the point I was trying to make. They don't have to do anything...yet. They can wait for more teams to fall out of contention and more options to be available. 10 game lead in standings...they'll wait a bit. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooch Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) I never said they didn't have to make a move to win post season. Go back and look. That was never the point I was trying to make. They don't have to do anything...yet. They can wait for more teams to fall out of contention and more options to be available. 10 game lead in standings...they'll wait a bit. Honest question: don't teams care at all about post-season seeding? Are they content to win the division by 8-10 games and finish with the fourth best record in the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) Sox should be packaging DRob with Jones to pull the best prospects from a team. Same thing with Q. Don't worry so much about getting multiple prospects at this point, just offer enough to get the best prospects from other teams. So, Q and Jones for.... Or Frazier and Jones for.... just focus on getting the top prospect, not a haul of players. Edited June 18, 2017 by Middle Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) Sox should be packaging DRob with Jones to pull the best prospects from a team. Same thing with Q. Don't worry so much about getting multiple prospects at this point, just offer enough to get the best prospects from other teams. Jones - he hath been on the DL since what... April? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 06:58 PM) Jones - he hath been on the DL since what... April? Yep, I was editing while you typed this. I just don't think they should focus on the max they can get for Q or DRob. Throw in another veteran with the idea that it doesn't matter if we "win" the trade. We just want a number 1 prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 07:03 PM) Yep, I was editing while you typed this. I just don't think they should focus on the max they can get for Q or DRob. Throw in another veteran with the idea that it doesn't matter if we "win" the trade. We just want a number 1 prospect. I could see Q + Frazier / Melky and Robertson + Kahnle / Swarzak packages being offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 09:09 PM) I could see Q + Frazier / Melky and Robertson + Kahnle / Swarzak packages being offered. Perhaps. Six would need a major haul for Robertson and kahnle though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 They have won 3 in a row and have an 11 game lead. if they haven't been willing to meet the price for Robertson yet, it looks like it may be a while. They need some bullpen help, no one is saying otherwise, but the huge lead gives them time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 03:57 AM) They have won 3 in a row and have an 11 game lead. if they haven't been willing to meet the price for Robertson yet, it looks like it may be a while. They need some bullpen help, no one is saying otherwise, but the huge lead gives them time. Yep we needed mets to win this weekend series in order to put pressure on them to improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Why do posters continue to dream up "packaging" this player with that player in trade, when this has not been Hahn's preference in word or in deed? I suppose anything's possible, but I don't recall him wanting to do things that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 07:52 AM) Why do posters continue to dream up "packaging" this player with that player in trade, when this has not been Hahn's preference in word or in deed? I suppose anything's possible, but I don't recall him wanting to do things that way... Because the deadline is a different beast and teams are oftentimes looking to fill multiple holes in one deal if possible. And on occasion, teams have been able to successfully package a secondary piece to land a blue chip prospect (see the Shark trade to Oakland). While multi-player trades are far more complex and more difficult to complete, I do think packaging two relievers in a deal with the Nationals makes a ton of sense for both clubs. There will no doubt be other quality relievers on the market, but I doubt many teams will have three them available at once. We can differentiate ourselves as the one-stop for a team like the Nationals who need more than just a closer. That could go a long way towards us getting a quality return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 10:49 PM) He definitely seems like someone that needs the pressure to succeed. And regular work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (skooch @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 06:31 PM) Honest question: don't teams care at all about post-season seeding? Are they content to win the division by 8-10 games and finish with the fourth best record in the league? In MLB as long as you are not in the 1 game play in, it doesn't matter as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Justin Wilson and Ryan Madson are two other bullpen targets for the Nats, according to Rosenthal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Nationals pen blows the lead again. Jacob turner gives up tying homer to stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I don't think I have ever seen anything like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 09:06 PM) I don't think I have ever seen anything like this. Its funny that the sox have a better pen then the nationals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 09:11 PM) Its funny that the sox have a better pen then the nationals They're not even on the same planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Romero appears to be the one guy they can count on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Imagine what Hahn is texting Rizzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 02:22 AM) Imagine what Hahn is texting Rizzo Probably asking if Drake is helping with Eaton's rehab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 07:26 PM) Probably asking if Drake is helping with Eaton's rehab +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Another loss on the bullpen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 19, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) Another loss on the bullpen This is so awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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