I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE

[Kyyle23]

Greg what on earth are white privilege gangs?

 

He thinks some crazy white privelege gang invaded the university of Missouri library and threatened people, despite multiple Soxtalk posters who attend and have attended the university telling him otherwise

 

But Rush

[Quin]

Greg what on earth are white privilege gangs?

 

Some s*** from West Side Story?

[greg775]

Greg what on earth are white privilege gangs?

Haven't you seen them on youtube? They march up to people and demand they state their privilege. I don't know if it was MU but they parade around demanding you invoke your privilege. They did it in a library and some of the people earlier had marched with the privilege gangs to show support and they still got chastised in the library.

[Reddy]

Haven't you seen them on youtube? They march up to people and demand they state their privilege. I don't know if it was MU but they parade around demanding you invoke your privilege. They did it in a library and some of the people earlier had marched with the privilege gangs to show support and they still got chastised in the library.

Everything you see on youtube is real.

[caulfield12]

Waiting for this Rabbit argument:

 

Having a casino, however, does not automatically make a tribe rich or mean that its tribal members receive casino payouts. The National Indian Gaming Association reports 562 tribes in the U.S. Only 223 of them have casinos, and of those, only 73 give per capita payouts. In fact, the research shows that casinos need to be within 50 miles of a metro area (with 10,000 or more residents) to be highly profitable. In our experience, the rural casinos do not have enough traffic to generate large profits — they do create a few tribal jobs.

 

http://www.nativepartnership.org/site/DocS....pdf?docID=1441

 

 

Waiting for Reddy's response on this one...at least now we've discovered the board isn't NEARLY as liberal as alleged, and can acknowledge that.

Edited May 29, 2017 by caulfield12

[caulfield12]

except for the weird s*** about Caulfield's foreign concubines and Reddy's shirtless picture threats. WTF?

 

 

Speaking of "concubines"... Trump and Bill Clinton might want to keep their heads down

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016...hillary-clinton

 

 

The irony is that Donald Trump brought two "models/escorts" into the US (Ivanka and Melania) that resulted in a net immigration gain of six if you add in Donald Trump, Jr., Ivanka, Eric and now Barron.

 

At least my ex had 4 1/2 years of education in Russia, 2 years at UMKC (History and Spanish) and now 2 more years for an MFA at Washington Univ. My current wife has a degree in international politics and philosophy from the #5 university in all of China, is bilingual and our son will also be fully fluent in at least two languages and an expert in the STEM subjects when he comes to the US to start schooling in middle or high school. So my net immigration contribution will ONLY be 50% of Trump's.

 

At any rate, I guess I have some chasing to do to catch Trump in the "concubines and beauty pageant/models groping and grabbing category." Does it count if I was a judge for the Miss Kansas/Miss Teen Kansas pageant fifteen years ago, lol? Guess I have to start my own agency as well as buy a pageant or two, haha.

 

 

 

 

Saving for financial freedom is the No. 1 priority for millennials — 63% of millennials said they’re saving a set amount of money to enjoy their desired lifestyle. This is a stark contrast to older generations: the majority of the Gen X and baby boomer generations prioritize their savings specifically to leave the workforce and retire.

 

“Young adults tell us they are willing to do whatever it takes to achieve freedom and flexibility, even if it means working for the rest of their lives,” said Aron Levine, head of Merrill Edge.

 

So where does that money go to if it’s not being funneled into retirement accounts? According to the Merrill report, 81% of millennials spend their money on traveling. Eating out and exercising are the two other activities millennials listed before they’d save for retirement. These spending habits point to a shift in the way millennials use their money for personal fulfillment, compared to older generations.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/millennials-...-195619131.html

Edited May 30, 2017 by caulfield12

[Reddy]

I know we can't be fair to greg but he said he wasn't sure if it was Mizzou or not. I can't keep track of all the bulls*** the kids at Mizzou do either. The school that did it was Dartmouth. Also happened at Michigan.

 

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov...-white-student/

Just keep in mind, linking to the Washington Times is like linking to The Blaze.

[Reddy]

Hate to disappoint caulfield, but listening to all this is interesting. White privilege doesn't disappear just because you don't personally believe it helped you - that's not really how any of this works - HOWEVER, part of what I'm working on right now is the interplay between what's true and what's an effective tactic. The two rarely intertwine, and I think this is one of those cases. Bringing over white folks who don't believe they have privilege to "my side" requires a much more sophisticated tactics than the ones I've been using, because it's difficult for people who've experienced personal struggles to recognize they still have certain privileges because of their skin that others don't, and that's pretty understandable.

 

So yeah. I'm working on processing it all. We'll see what I end up with.

[Reddy]

Hate to disappoint caulfield, but listening to all this is interesting. White privilege doesn't disappear just because you don't personally believe it helped you - that's not really how any of this works - HOWEVER, part of what I'm working on right now is the interplay between what's true and what's an effective tactic. The two rarely intertwine, and I think this is one of those cases. Bringing over white folks who don't believe they have privilege to "my side" requires much more sophisticated tactics than the ones I've been using. It's difficult for people who've experienced personal struggles to recognize they still have certain privileges because of their skin color that others don't. But honestly, that's pretty understandable.

 

So yeah. I'm working on processing it all. We'll see what I end up with.

Edited May 30, 2017 by Reddy

[iamshack]

Hate to disappoint caulfield, but listening to all this is interesting. White privilege doesn't disappear just because you don't personally believe it helped you - that's not really how any of this works - HOWEVER, part of what I'm working on right now is the interplay between what's true and what's an effective tactic. The two rarely intertwine, and I think this is one of those cases. Bringing over white folks who don't believe they have privilege to "my side" requires much more sophisticated tactics than the ones I've been using. It's difficult for people who've experienced personal struggles to recognize they still have certain privileges because of their skin color that others don't. But honestly, that's pretty understandable.

 

So yeah. I'm working on processing it all. We'll see what I end up with.

And then once you have them on "your side," what will you do?

[caulfield12]

Turn them into "bots" for a proposed left-wing media equivalent of Fox NEWS, lol?

 

Deploy them to finally get a significant DEM victory for Ossoff in the GA-6 race?

 

 

 

Btw, Reddy...you will enjoy this article (not roaming white privilege gangs related)...

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/29/b...t-losses-238889

[greg775]

I know we can't be fair to greg but he said he wasn't sure if it was Mizzou or not. I can't keep track of all the bulls*** the kids at Mizzou do either. The school that did it was Dartmouth. Also happened at Michigan.

 

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov...-white-student/

Thank u rabbit. You are fair to Greg! I like it.

[caulfield12]

I am curious to hear if all those claiming "white privilege" doesn't exist also agree with the concept of charter schools? I'm pretty sure the answer will be yes.

 

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...r-school-215201

PAUL RYAN'S FAVORITE CHARTER SCHOOL

 

I think this is an absolutely fascinating argument, about charter schools/vouchers vs. public schools...and wrapped up in this is improving educational outcomes for mostly African-American and Hispanic students in the US.

 

Having taught for four years in one of the worst-performing public school districts in the US (Kansas City, MO), I understand the arguments on both side and have a lot of sympathy for the cause of WELL RUN charter schools.

 

Reading this article, it made me think a lot of the way students here in China are prepared in KG, primary/elementary and middle school...the "study robot" approach which is so provocative to many parents, with its assorted pluses and minuses.

 

Along with my many examples of "white privilege," I also am grateful that I had opportunity to work for 2-3 years (1999-2002) on a weekly basis with former H&R Block CEO Tom Block's President's Community Service Awards program, as well as his charter school, University Leadership Academy (and finally, the Ewing Kauffman Foundation). He co-founded this particular school with the Helzergs (they were also on the board of the non-profit I worked for, if you know Helzberg Diamonds in the Midwest, which Warren Buffett acquired for Berkshire-Hathaway) and I would be happy to support charters like this one and the ones in NYC as described in the article at the top of the post. One of the most amazing life stories (Tom Bloch) of a billionaire you could ever imagine...

 

https://kcmo.ent.sirsi.net/client/en_US/kcl...r+the+Best%2522

https://www.kclibrary.org/event/tom-bloch-a...urban-education

Edited May 30, 2017 by caulfield12

[ptatc]

Well, that all goes back to the 47% of the population are receiving benefits/not working argument...no to mention the fact that Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, defense spending and interest on the debt continues to soak up an increasing portion of all government spending, not to mention the public/private pension benefits that are guaranteed to be paid.

 

It's also one of the most compelling "free market" arguments for admitting exponentially increasing numbers of intl students, because their parents are willing to "invest" hundreds of thousands of dollars in their (mostly only) children's education/s. Roughly 50% of those students stay in the US or Canada and contribute to those economies (in fact, like the Kushner Propertystrategy, so many Chinese moved their money into Vancouver real estate, it blew up the prices for couples in their 20's and 30's to the point they couldn't afford to live there...same with SF and Silicon Valley. But isn't that still an overall benefit to the US economy, rising home/land values?)

 

Finally, who are they going to get to work on the farms in California, Texas and all over the US when mostly white "native citizens" are unable or unwilling to do that type of work for $10-15/hour..landscaping/lawn maintenance...nannies/domestic helpers, Midwest processing plants like ConAgra, Iowa Beef Products (slaughterhouses), low skill/lower wage factory jobs, etc.

Nothing you said applies to anything I wrote.

 

Last time I checked, international students on visas are legal. There are plenty of ways to make migrant workers checked and legal. There just needs to be a limit.

I worked at one of the IBP plants in high school. It was a great way to make money during the off season and summers.

[ptatc]

Turn them into "bots" for a proposed left-wing media equivalent of Fox NEWS, lol?

 

Deploy them to finally get a significant DEM victory for Ossoff in the GA-6 race?

 

 

 

Btw, Reddy...you will enjoy this article (not roaming white privilege gangs related)...

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/29/b...t-losses-238889

That would be the Clinton News Network.

[ptatc]

I am curious to hear if all those claiming "white privilege" doesn't exist also agree with the concept of charter schools? I'm pretty sure the answer will be yes.

 

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...r-school-215201

PAUL RYAN'S FAVORITE CHARTER SCHOOL

 

I think this is an absolutely fascinating argument, about charter schools/vouchers vs. public schools...and wrapped up in this is improving educational outcomes for mostly African-American and Hispanic students in the US.

 

Having taught for four years in one of the worst-performing public school districts in the US (Kansas City, MO), I understand the arguments on both side and have a lot of sympathy for the cause of WELL RUN charter schools.

 

Reading this article, it made me think a lot of the way students here in China are prepared in KG, primary/elementary and middle school...the "study robot" approach which is so provocative to many parents, with its assorted pluses and minuses.

 

Along with my many examples of "white privilege," I also am grateful that I had opportunity to work for 2-3 years (1999-2002) on a weekly basis with former H&R Block CEO Tom Block's President's Community Service Awards program, as well as his charter school, University Leadership Academy (and finally, the Ewing Kauffman Foundation). He co-founded this particular school with the Helzergs (they were also on the board of the non-profit I worked for, if you know Helzberg Diamonds in the Midwest, which Warren Buffett acquired for Berkshire-Hathaway) and I would be happy to support charters like this one and the ones in NYC as described in the article at the top of the post. One of the most amazing life stories (Tom Bloch) of a billionaire you could ever imagine...

 

https://kcmo.ent.sirsi.net/client/en_US/kcl...r+the+Best%2522

https://www.kclibrary.org/event/tom-bloch-a...urban-education

This is an interesting discussion. On the pro-side, what would be wrong if all of the parents can choose where to send their kids. On the negative, who decides which students get turned away when the school is full? There are really good reasons for each side.

[ptatc]

Hate to disappoint caulfield, but listening to all this is interesting. White privilege doesn't disappear just because you don't personally believe it helped you - that's not really how any of this works - HOWEVER, part of what I'm working on right now is the interplay between what's true and what's an effective tactic. The two rarely intertwine, and I think this is one of those cases. Bringing over white folks who don't believe they have privilege to "my side" requires much more sophisticated tactics than the ones I've been using. It's difficult for people who've experienced personal struggles to recognize they still have certain privileges because of their skin color that others don't. But honestly, that's pretty understandable.

 

So yeah. I'm working on processing it all. We'll see what I end up with.

But does it exist just because people who believe they were slighted believe it exists? It exists in general, but does it exists in all of these cases just because one side said it does.

[caulfield12]

Are you claiming it didn't happen? I don't throw my arms up in the air when someone posts CNN. What's your point if you have one? It happened. Why do you need to deflect.

http://www.dartreview.com/eyes-wide-open-at-the-protest/

 

 

What the need to get everyone on your side? Your side isn't attractive to many - it's founded in being pretentious and having arrogance. Most of us don't have our political compass formed on how we can put others down to feel better about ourselves.

 

The problem with this is the opposite corollary....most Republicans (not ALL) have never walked in the shoes of those poor people whose programs they are gutting, have no first-hand experience with Meals on Wheels, etc.

 

It's equally pretentious and arrogant to believe that simply getting rid of ALL government programs spending for poor populations because 1) it's difficult to quantify the results and "prove" how beneficial a program is (or isn't), and 2) this idea that we should be dramatically increasing defense spending without any accountability, auditing of programs, we still in Month 5 of the Trump Presidency don't have a clearly-articulated foreign policy or plan going forward, other than to spend 10% or more on defense than in previous years, yet somehow put Americans first, not lecture our foreign "allies" like Saudia Arabia and not get entangled in North Korea, Syria, Iran, Israel/Palestine, Russia/Ukraine, with NATO commitments, United Nations, etc.

 

Spending money...government or private, is not inherently good or bad, but you at least have to articulate a vision of what you're attempting to accomplish or achieve.

[caulfield12]

Nothing you said applies to anything I wrote.

 

Last time I checked, international students on visas are legal. There are plenty of ways to make migrant workers checked and legal. There just needs to be a limit.

I worked at one of the IBP plants in high school. It was a great way to make money during the off season and summers.

 

I should have specified transitioning to H1B (business or investment) visas or work visas after school is completed...the Trump administration wants to further limit those numbers, as there are specific numbers allocated per country. The number for Chinese accepted has hit the limits and they've started turning away applications, for example.

 

The other part of this is the pending legislation coming from "California state residents" to limit the number of international students admitted into the Univ. of California system of state schools...with the idea that these "foreign/international" students are BLOCKING local or native California residents from being accepted into the best of those schools because their (Asian) test scores/SAT are significantly higher than the white, Hispanic and African-American student populations. SEE BELOW.

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/california-to-lim...ts/3863065.html

Edited May 30, 2017 by caulfield12

[Reddy]

Thank u rabbit. You are fair to Greg! I like it.

 

Greg is Donald Trump. I'm certain of it.

[Reddy]

"The totalitarian, to me, is the enemy - the one that's absolute, the one that wants control over the inside of your head, not just your actions and your taxes."

Agreed.

 

Fortunately, there's nothing totalitarian about realizing your attempts at outreach require different tactics. Lol. But sure, go ahead and attack me for caring enough about the issues to try and craft a more effective message. #graspthemstraws

[Reddy]

And then once you have them on "your side," what will you do?

I can't imagine I'll ever have to worry about having everyone on "my side"

[Reddy]

Turn them into "bots" for a proposed left-wing media equivalent of Fox NEWS, lol?

 

Deploy them to finally get a significant DEM victory for Ossoff in the GA-6 race?

 

 

 

Btw, Reddy...you will enjoy this article (not roaming white privilege gangs related)...

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/29/b...t-losses-238889

 

Read it last night. I DID enjoy it, though it's not a completely fair assessment given how red the races involved have been. BUT part of the Sanders message is that they could win in red states, and.... they haven't.

 

I do see the movement eventually fizzling out if they can't secure significant victories. (not sure it's relevant to this thread though )

[ptatc]

I should have specified transitioning to H1B (business or investment) visas or work visas after school is completed...the Trump administration wants to further limit those numbers, as there are specific numbers allocated per country. The number for Chinese accepted has hit the limits and they've started turning away applications, for example.

 

The other part of this is the pending legislation coming from "California state residents" to limit the number of international students admitted into the Univ. of California system of state schools...with the idea that these "foreign/international" students are BLOCKING local or native California residents from being accepted into the best of those schools because their (Asian) test scores/SAT are significantly higher than the white, Hispanic and African-American student populations. SEE BELOW.

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/california-to-lim...ts/3863065.html

Of course its complicated. It should be. Immigration should not be based on, "I want to be here." It should be similar to many other countries. They need to show that their skills are needed here and they can be a productive member of society.

[Reddy]

Of course its complicated. It should be. Immigration should not be based on, "I want to be here." It should be similar to many other countries. They need to show that their skills are needed here and they can be a productive member of society.

I don't disagree with this. Unless, they have refugee status or there are other extenuating circumstances.