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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 09:46 AM)
Phil Rogers‏Verified account @philgrogers 3h3 hours ago @whitesox were positioned for sixth pick on July 1. Have gone 7-24 since, moving to threshold of first overall pick next June.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?...ition=Standings

 

Fangraphs still predicts us to finish 61-101 with the worst record in baseball by three games. I believe it.

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QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 10:11 AM)
I think this one is better called the "tragic number".

 

Given that we are going through a total rebuild, I think most Sox fans do not mind the losses right now. We might as well maximize our draft positioning since we are not going to the playoffs.

 

Being 8 games back in the division would arguably be worse with a mediocre roster.

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 10:33 PM)
The prospect of having a few months to ogle over a first spot draft position has me wet. Otherwise, I agree.

 

If the White Sox don't get that spot because Yoan Moncada looks like a future MVP candidate, Rodon, ReyLo, and Gio all show TOR potential, Anderson has a resurgence, and Avi and Leury look like 1st half Avi and Leury (which then makes them both highly marketable assets in the offseason), I'm okay with picking 2 or 3 at that point.

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QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 11:22 AM)
If the White Sox don't get that spot because Yoan Moncada looks like a future MVP candidate, Rodon, ReyLo, and Gio all show TOR potential, Anderson has a resurgence, and Avi and Leury look like 1st half Avi and Leury (which then makes them both highly marketable assets in the offseason), I'm okay with picking 2 or 3 at that point.

Given that Alex Bregman and Brendan Rodgers went 2/3, respectively, in 2015, Carlos Rodon at #3 in 2014 after Brady Aiken & Tyler Kolek were selected, Kris Bryant at #2 in 2013 after Mark Appel was taken first, so on and so forth, picking 2 or 3 doesn't bother me at all, especially if it's due to late season success of the young future stars.

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QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 11:54 AM)
Given that Alex Bregman and Brendan Rodgers went 2/3, respectively, in 2015, Carlos Rodon at #3 in 2014 after Brady Aiken & Tyler Kolek were selected, Kris Bryant at #2 in 2013 after Mark Appel was taken first, so on and so forth, picking 2 or 3 doesn't bother me at all, especially if it's due to late season success of the young future stars.

 

Me neither. I rather hit a home run at #3 than have an epic fail/disaster at #1. It's never a sure thing at #1 and honestly more hype...but I will say lately I have a ton more confidence with this FO and Hahn calling shots these days than in the past. All I keep envisioning tho...is all the young talent we have right now and a possible rotation of Rodon, Kopech, Lopez, Giolito and either Dunning, Hansen or Cease in a couple years. Good lord....plus add whoever gets selected next year...Sox sitting very well indeed.

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QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 01:46 PM)
Me neither. I rather hit a home run at #3 than have an epic fail/disaster at #1. It's never a sure thing at #1 and honestly more hype...but I will say lately I have a ton more confidence with this FO and Hahn calling shots these days than in the past. All I keep envisioning tho...is all the young talent we have right now and a possible rotation of Rodon, Kopech, Lopez, Giolito and either Dunning, Hansen or Cease in a couple years. Good lord....plus add whoever gets selected next year...Sox sitting very well indeed.

 

Its never a sure thing with any pick in the draft.

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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 02:16 PM)
Its never a sure thing with any pick in the draft.

Just imagine the entire offseason and first couple months of the 2018 baseball year with us all being able to endlessly speculate about the first pick!

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 12, 2017 -> 07:01 PM)
Just imagine the entire offseason and first couple months of the 2018 baseball year with us all being able to endlessly speculate about the first pick!

Hell yea and how cool if some badass just cements 1:1 status and we know we're gonna get him.

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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 08:32 PM)
I'm hoping for about 3 or 4 that could go 1-1. Let's say the Sox scouting likes the #3 ranked prospect, there's a chance at getting their guy underslot because their guy isn't the clear #1. The more options the better for the Sox.

Mmm tasty. I amend my previous position to yours

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QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 6, 2017 -> 10:03 PM)
The Trout-less Angels and woeful Twins are hovering just below .500. The Brewers, a truly miserable roster that had no intentions of competing to start the year, are only 0.5 back of the juggernaut Cubs.

 

All it would take is Rodon/Lopez/Giolito all playing up to their potentials and it will be extremely difficult for the Sox to be so bad again.

 

Thats not all it would take.

 

It would take Avi and Leury putting up back to back career seasons. It would take James Shields pitching as he was capable of 8 years ago. It would take Davidson being able to continue to hit, finding someone to replace Melkys offensive production and for the Sox to find some sort of bullpen over the winter. The combination of all these things working in the Sox favor is pretty low.

 

This team is going to hover near the bottom of the division next season, and probably be in a dog fight with KC for last.

 

This team is not competing next year there are just too many issues to overcome. I think you will see the Sox active in free agency looking for next seasons Holland and Gonzalez as guys to throw into the rotation to try and move in the deadline. You will also probably see them dumpster dive for some relievers, like they did with Swarzak. Other than that, there is not going to be any big money going to FA's, its just not the right time and you are going to have to overpay to bring someone in to this situation to play on bad teams.

 

The one exception you may see is if someone, like Ian Desmond last season, starts to fall in the value range that makes sense for the Sox to sign and try to flip.

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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 08:32 PM)
I'm hoping for about 3 or 4 that could go 1-1. Let's say the Sox scouting likes the #3 ranked prospect, there's a chance at getting their guy underslot because their guy isn't the clear #1. The more options the better for the Sox.

 

If the Sox get 1-1, I'd prefer someone to distinguish themselves to the point where no one questions who the pick is, like Bryce Harper.

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