NorthSideSox72 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Three draft prospect previews, three outfielders so far. Here is the profile on Jordon Adell, who is younger and far more raw than the previously discussed pair but has tantalizing tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I like Longenhagen a lot for swings. He hasn't put a FV on Adell but ranked him 10th and said despite his swing and miss issues its encouraging he has already shown ability to make swing adjustments that improve his swing. He thinks he ends up as a RF/OF though. http://www.fangraphs.com/scoutboard.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Geez, he reads like a book end to Luis Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (oldsox @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:28 AM) Geez, he reads like a book end to Luis Robert. Sure would suck to have 2 guys like that! Edit: I guess the Sox system has 2, with Adolfo... can never have enough! Edited May 31, 2017 by turnin' two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 31, 2017 -> 08:23 AM) Three draft prospect previews, three outfielders so far. Here is the profile on Jordon Adell, who is younger and far more raw than the previously discussed pair but has tantalizing tools. This is exactly the type of player the White Sox have trouble developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:21 AM) This is exactly the type of player the White Sox have trouble developing. And if they continue to not be able to develop players like this then the rebuild will be deemed a failure and they have far bigger problems anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:21 AM) This is exactly the type of player the White Sox have trouble developing. I kind of take exception to this. We shouldn't rule out all future athletic players because of Jared Mitchell. We have also failed with a high intangible line drive hitting short stop in Gordon Beckham. We just developed a raw, athletic shortstop in Tim Anderson. We were bad at developing, period. But you won't get good by constantly relying on acquiring the high value prospects like Robert/Moncada who are very athletic, powerful prospects with some swing and miss. I would love another advanced approach college hitter, but we can't just draft a bunch of corner outfield/1b 15 home run types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:32 AM) I kind of take exception to this. We shouldn't rule out all future athletic players because of Jared Mitchell. Jared Mitchell, Courtney Hawkins, Keenyn Walker... Edited May 31, 2017 by Dam8610 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:37 AM) Jared Mitchell, Courtney Hawkins, Keenyn Walker... Everyone knows those guys and what they did in the Sox system. And if those past failures dictate that the Sox never draft a guy with plus tools again, well, the team may never have a superstar level player. Are you mad they signed Robert? Because if your outlook is what it seems, you must see that as a total waste of money that they could have used to sign someone like, Matt Holliday or some other completely mundane but predicable player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:32 AM) I kind of take exception to this. We shouldn't rule out all future athletic players because of Jared Mitchell. We have also failed with a high intangible line drive hitting short stop in Gordon Beckham. We just developed a raw, athletic shortstop in Tim Anderson. We were bad at developing, period. But you won't get good by constantly relying on acquiring the high value prospects like Robert/Moncada who are very athletic, powerful prospects with some swing and miss. I would love another advanced approach college hitter, but we can't just draft a bunch of corner outfield/1b 15 home run types. And let's not forget the history here. Mitchell was on a good track until he destroyed his ankle. He was never the same after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) And let's not forget the history here. Mitchell was on a good track until he destroyed his ankle. He was never the same after that. Everyone seems to forget this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 While it is undoubtedly true that the Sox have struggled to develop hitters with raw offensive skills, you cannot simply cut off that part of the talent pool. The answer is to improve the development staff and methods, and guess what? They've made big changes in those areas the past couple years. And you have guys like Adam Engel and Tim Anderson starting to prove it wrong already. Electing to not draft hitters on the raw side, if they are the best available talent, is not a recipe for success in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:21 AM) This is exactly the type of player the White Sox have trouble developing. The Sox have entirely new scouting and player development staffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 31, 2017 -> 05:09 PM) The Sox have entirely new scouting and player development staffs. Adell is a classic boom or bust prospect. Significant chance that he flames out and doesn't got well enough to reach the majors or become a regular, but a ton of teams could be looking back with regret if they pass on him and he becomes a star. I see the Sox preferring a college player in the first round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 31, 2017 -> 10:32 AM) I kind of take exception to this. We shouldn't rule out all future athletic players because of Jared Mitchell. We have also failed with a high intangible line drive hitting short stop in Gordon Beckham. We just developed a raw, athletic shortstop in Tim Anderson. We were bad at developing, period. But you won't get good by constantly relying on acquiring the high value prospects like Robert/Moncada who are very athletic, powerful prospects with some swing and miss. I would love another advanced approach college hitter, but we can't just draft a bunch of corner outfield/1b 15 home run types. Did they really develope him? Anderson is an ok player because he is a shortstop but his plate discipline and contact is still not good. I think nobody has something against athletic players the problem is raw players with flaws. Btw the cubs weren't great at developing those players either but they got a lot of very polished players. Btw im not totally against addell he has some plate discipline issues but the swing itself is pretty solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 QUOTE (GermanSock @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 05:02 PM) Did they really develope him? Anderson is an ok player because he is a shortstop but his plate discipline and contact is still not good. I think nobody has something against athletic players the problem is raw players with flaws. Btw the cubs weren't great at developing those players either but they got a lot of very polished players. Btw im not totally against addell he has some plate discipline issues but the swing itself is pretty solid. Tim Anderson was extremely raw when the White Sox got ahold of him. Today is raw. He was a terrible defensive SS when they drafted him. Many wondered if he could stick at SS, and if he would be a 2B or an OF when all was said and done. The fact that he is a productive major leaguer is a HUGE win for the White Sox drafting and development team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Luis Robert is going to test all these development theories (what has changed, if anything) as it pertains to the Sox front office, minor league ops and scouting/talent evaluation. I consider myself a great hitter, but my principal tool is my legs. I've liked to run since I was a kid. I like to steal bases and cover a lot of ground in the outfield. Center field is my favorite position to play. I can play the three positions in the outfield, but center field is where I feel most comfortable. As a batter, I considered myself both a power hitter and contact hitter. I think after a full year playing in the Minors, I will be ready to help the White Sox. I have a winning mentality. An excerpt from the full interview that's in the long/posted at top Robert thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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