southsider2k5 Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 07:37 AM) Can't argue with that. And I just want to throw out there that if this is really true, it's an absolutely brutal way for him to end a career and it sucks. With that said, I'm a born skeptic and this just doesn't really pass the smell test right now. We've never heard a word about this until now, the statements released today were VERY careful to not call it a retirement but just that he won't play this season, and him going on LTIR has been something that has been talked about for YEARS. It's just...weird. Supposedly he is on a medication for it, so it would be pretty straight forward to prove or disprove to the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 01:09 AM) Even though I saw a quote from someone close to the situation who said he didn't appreciate the idea that this was made up, and it's a serious health issue for Marian, I really do hope it was made it up. It would suck to see a legendary player like Hossa suffer and have to wimper in to retirement before he wanted to call it quits. I'm all for the cap space, but I hope it was Hossa's decision, not an actual health issue. There have been some serious cases of the "gunk" over the years but I think they are exaggerating it a bit. It is nasty stuff. This and the smell of hockey locker rooms are the worst part working the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) Yeah, of all players I think Hossa is one of the last ones who would want to go out this way. He is a machine, and one of my favorite players. Not only an amazing scorer, but a two way beast. Good luck winning a puck battle with him in the corner. While I agree with this and don't doubt his work ethic at all, you kind of have to look at some of the realities of his situation. He had made over $100 million in his career, $60+ in just 8 years with the Hawks. Now all of a sudden, he would have to play 4 more seasons at just $1 million per. And at age 38 it obviously takes a lot more effort and training to keep up with the kids in the league. Maybe he was thinking about hanging up and this "gunk" was part of the reason, but he can't just retire and screw over the Hawks who helped him so much. So they worked out a LTIR plan. There are so many moving parts in this situation, it would be interesting to know where the 100% truth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 12:11 PM) While I agree with this and don't doubt his work ethic at all, you kind of have to look at some of the realities of his situation. He had made over $100 million in his career, $60+ in just 8 years with the Hawks. Now all of a sudden, he would have to play 4 more seasons at just $1 million per. And at age 38 it obviously takes a lot more effort and training to keep up with the kids in the league. Maybe he was thinking about hanging up and this "gunk" was part of the reason, but he can't just retire and screw over the Hawks who helped him so much. So they worked out a LTIR plan. There are so many moving parts in this situation, it would be interesting to know where the 100% truth is. It could be. And I mean by not retiring, he is getting a free $1 million per year... so that is working for him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) There have been some serious cases of the "gunk" over the years but I think they are exaggerating it a bit. It is nasty stuff. This and the smell of hockey locker rooms are the worst part working the sport. Do you know anything about the medications that one would take to treat it? The statements that were released specifically talked about the medications and its side effects, maybe that had an extra negative effect on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) There have been some serious cases of the "gunk" over the years but I think they are exaggerating it a bit. It is nasty stuff. This and the smell of hockey locker rooms are the worst part working the sport. Oh yeah, I played hockey for 5 or 6 years and my brothers played through HS. That smell will absolutely ruin a car. lol. Never drove in my brother's car without the windows down, sucking air out of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 This expansion draft on stage in Vegas is really weird and uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 A huge asset on 3 championship teams. Thank you MH. Unreal how he never won a Selke. That is f***ing stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 07:34 PM) This expansion draft on stage in Vegas is really weird and uncomfortable. So unnecessary and forced. On another note James Neal is a golden knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Cheers to Bickell. What a sad story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 TVR a golden knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jun 21, 2017 -> 09:16 PM) TVR a golden knight Not anymore, traded to Carolina, which is becoming the new Florida for ex-Hawks. Kruger is still a Hawk for now, but lots of rumors out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 10:51 AM) Not anymore, traded to Carolina, which is becoming the new Florida for ex-Hawks. Kruger is still a Hawk for now, but lots of rumors out there The urgency is less now that Hossa is out, but I still think it wise to open up some space in Kruger's place if possible. Team has to get younger and have room to sign younger guys. Edited June 22, 2017 by Sox-35th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 According to Kuc, Hawks focused on moving up in the draft. They do have 10 picks this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryzner Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 #Blackhawks acquire defensemen Connor Murphy and Laurent Dauphin from the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for defenseman Niklas Hjalmarsson. https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks/status/878281711628435457 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 QUOTE (aryzner @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 11:04 AM) #Blackhawks acquire defensemen Connor Murphy and Laurent Dauphin from the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for defenseman Niklas Hjalmarsson. https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks/status/878281711628435457 That's a nice trade for the Hawks but f*** it sucks to see Hammer go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Panarin for Saad now? LMAO WHAT IS GOING ON????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) What? Friedman says it's in the works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 @drosennhl Follow More Joel Quenneville just walked out of the coach's meeting at the League's official Draft hotel, got in a cab and left. whoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Maybe the United Center is cursed now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 #Blackhawks trade Niklas Hjalmarsson to Coyotes in draft-day shocker WHAAAAAAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Pierre LeBrunVerified account @PierreVLeBrun Following More Motte and Forsberg and a pick swap also part of the Saad-Panarin trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 How can anyone hate getting Saad back? He is younger and Toews hasn't been the same since he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) How can anyone hate getting Saad back? He is younger and Toews hasn't been the same since he left. I'm more weirded out seeing Q leave abruptly in a cab. maybe reading too much into it but that's too much of a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 TRADE: To #Blackhawks: F Brandon Saad G Anton Forsberg 2018 5th RD pick To #BlueJackets: F Artemi Panarin F Tyler Motte 2017 6th RD pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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