EvilMonkey Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) I'll bet a million dollars that's not from today...it is from the idea that everyone needs to participate and have their voices heard, protest, Kaine is not speaking literally. Probably during the general election campaign or just after Nov. 8. Or what about Trump saying everyone in the audience should exercise their Second Amendment rights on Hillary last year? Never said nor implied it was from today. But I recall not long ago when talk even tamer than that was blamed for Giffords shooting. At least until it turned out he was a Dem too. Dems talk up violent protest, tacitly endorse the violence as long as it is against the 'other side', cheer for convicted terrorists in parades and have them as advisors and friends. You don't have to ORDER people to do that, they will do what you want to please the masters. Dems own this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I think we're close to convincing Alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:07 AM) I'm surprised it took Alpha so long. I'm working. And the 'let's just wait and see' I am seeing here so far is just sickening, because you know if it were the Dem team that got shot the speculation would be 20 pages already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 09:07 AM) I'm surprised it took Alpha so long. You had a mod reacting to a screen grab that was totally taken out of context...just to fan the flames further. Which is why inevitably there will be more shootings. And Bernie Sanders will be answering uncomfortable gun control questions himself by the end of the day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:01 PM) Dems own this, like it or not. poor taste or not. Tim Kaine says Democrats need to oppose Trump, so Democrats own a guy shooting at Congressmen at a baseball game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Not like the President ever told 2nd Amendment folks to express their rights or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:12 AM) Tim Kaine says Democrats need to oppose Trump, so Democrats own a guy shooting at Congressmen at a baseball game? yes. Read my post a few up from yours again. Live by your own rules. (not you personally) Guilty by association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 09:08 AM) Never said nor implied it was from today. But I recall not long ago when talk even tamer than that was blamed for Giffords shooting. At least until it turned out he was a Dem too. Dems talk up violent protest, tacitly endorse the violence as long as it is against the 'other side', cheer for convicted terrorists in parades and have them as advisors and friends. You don't have to ORDER people to do that, they will do what you want to please the masters. Dems own this. Your response to this: Donald Trump Suggests ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Act Against Hillary Clinton https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/polit...ry-clinton.html Sioux Center, Iowa (CNN)Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally here. After the event, Trump declined to answer when asked by CNN to clarify his comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) I'm working. And the 'let's just wait and see' I am seeing here so far is just sickening, because you know if it were the Dem team that got shot the speculation would be 20 pages already. And that behavior would apparently be correct, according to you, right? The correct thing to do is speculate and blame the leaders of the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:16 AM) Your response to this: Donald Trump Suggests ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Act Against Hillary Clinton https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/polit...ry-clinton.html Sioux Center, Iowa (CNN)Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally here. After the event, Trump declined to answer when asked by CNN to clarify his comments. You forgot to add " and appoints judges who favor stricter gun control measures." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) https://www.facebook.com/jthodgkinson Seems quite the Democrat follower and perhaps a BernieBro, at least according to his Facebook page. And now a bunch of people are lambasting him on his own page. Wonder how ling until it is taken down. QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) Dems own this, like it or not. poor taste or not. More disgusting s***. Seriously, I hope none of the three of you I've called out ever complain about the polarization in politics, or politicians making tragedies into opportunities. Congress people are just amplifications. You all need to look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) Dems own this, like it or not. poor taste or not. Sure alpha https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/746022114042478592 Senator Rand Paul @RandPaul .@Judgenap: Why do we have a Second Amendment? It's not to shoot deer. It's to shoot at the government when it becomes tyrannical! 11:48 AM · Jun 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Hodgkinson is dead. So we will never have his side to this...not from his own mouth. Unless he told his wife. Apparently he'd been living in the DC area the past couple of months. Hodgkinson's wife told ABC News that her husband had been living in Alexandria, Virginia, for the past two months. Hodgkinson left his job as a "home inspector, mold/air quality tester," according to his Facebook page. Hodgkinson has an extensive history of traffic violations and petty offenses in St. Clair County, Illinois, spanning from 1989 to 2011, according to online county court records. The vast majority of the cases are traffic violations and nearly all of them were later dismissed. The most recent conviction on his record was for a “petty offense” of failure to obtain an electrical contractor’s license in 2009. http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-congressi...ory?id=48032649 Congressional Shooter Loved Bernie Sanders, Hated ‘Racist & Sexist’ Republicans http://www.thedailybeast.com/congressional...cans?yptr=yahoo Edited June 14, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 09:31 AM) These posts make me ill. Can we maybe, for a day, blame the lunatic who did the shooting? And not create a link that can never be proven just to score political points? Come on. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Multiple Dem reps say they have gotten calls saying "you're next" https://twitter.com/o_ema/status/875020626435735552 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:34 AM) More disgusting s***. Seriously, I hope none of the three of you I've called out ever complain about the polarization in politics, or politicians making tragedies into opportunities. Congress people are just amplifications. You all need to look in the mirror. I should have clarified better but I in no way was trying to fan the flames. So please do not associate me with this. Edited June 14, 2017 by KagakuOtoko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Did he own the gun legally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Now a shooting at a UPS in San Francisco. Quick! Let's see what party affiliation/race the shooter is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 11:52 AM) Now a shooting at a UPS in San Francisco. Quick! Let's see what party affiliation/race the shooter is!! This is not newsworthy. People blow each other daily but once people start targeting politicians, that's a different ball game. /green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) This is not newsworthy. People blow each other daily but once people start targeting politicians, that's a different ball game. /green My bad, my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) This is not newsworthy. People blow each other daily but once people start targeting politicians, that's a different ball game. /green I'm thinking this guy knew what he was targeting. He seems a guy who was either self employed or unemployed. A Bernie fan. Sees what is going on with health care, and snaps. I know some don't want to hear it, but as the 2 parties grow farther and farther apart, this is the sort of thing that has to be defended against, both ways. Every party has their fair share of wackadoos. Edited June 14, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 My hot take is that this highlights the growing problem of self-radicalization from online sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) Now a shooting at a UPS in San Francisco. Quick! Let's see what party affiliation/race the shooter is!! There were just shots fired outside Barklays Center also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Scalise has regressed and is in critical condition. Some reports that he was stable earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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