Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 12:56 AM) Because they got an absolute trash return for a top 15 f***in' player, even for what they wanna do. That is why Bulls fan would have wanted this kind of package, minus thomas. The pick alone is a better return than the trash that they got, and very obviously makes so much more f***in' sense for what you CLEARLY point out they wanna do, potentially land Porter/Bagley. All reports were that this type of package wasn't available for Jimmy Butler from Boston though. People can hate the Butler return all they want. My point was that this Kyrie Irving deal has nothing to do with the Butler trade even though people want to make that the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) All reports were that this type of package wasn't available for Jimmy Butler from Boston though. People can hate the Butler return all they want. My point was that this Kyrie Irving deal has nothing to do with the Butler trade even though people want to make that the case. It wasn't available at that time. Honestly, the fact that Butler and George got dealt likely led to their massive overpay for Kyrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) It wasn't available at that time. Honestly, the fact that Butler and George got dealt likely led to their massive overpay for Kyrie. I very much agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) It wasn't available at that time. Honestly, the fact that Butler and George got dealt likely led to their massive overpay for Kyrie. Which only goes to prove that the Butler deal was indeed rushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 12:47 PM) Which only goes to prove that the Butler deal was indeed rushed. Exactly. Bulls management are a bunch of clowns. But we had to lock down Lauri Markkonen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The future Windy City Bull, Cam Payne out a couple of months for foot surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2017 -> 08:12 PM) The future Windy City Bull, Cam Payne out a couple of months for foot surgery. His 3rd surgery on the same foot. Another brilliant trade by Gar Forman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 I guess you could say the rebuild is off on the wrong foot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Bulls trade a 2nd rounder to acquire Quincy pondexter. Really big response to Kyrie trade. I think we're all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 So Bulls trade yet another draft pick during a "rebuild" for a guy whose career is over after missing 164 straight games. Garpax everbody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Okay so the Bulls are getting a 2nd rounder. That makes so much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Windy City and the Bulls are switching coaches, Loenser to the Big Bulls, Henry to WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/31/rep...-from-pelicans/ (CBS) The Bulls on Thursday acquired wing Quincy Pondexter from the Pelicans, according to multiple reports. The move is a salary dump for New Orleans, which will also send a 2018 second-round pick to Chicago, CSN Chicago’s Vincent Goodwill reported. The 29-year-old Pondexter is owed $3.85 million in the final year of his contract. The Bulls have ample room to absorb Pondexter’s contract, in the form of cap space or a $15 million trade exception that was acquired in the deal that sent Jimmy Butler to the Timberwolves, whichever they choose. Pondexter has missed the entirety of the last two seasons because of serious left knee injuries that necessitated three surgeries. He’s a career 36.5 percent 3-point shooter. [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 07:37 PM) http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/31/rep...-from-pelicans/ [ So they went from what would have been a high 2nd round pick to a mid-range 2nd round pick + a useless player? Sweet moves Garpax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) So they went from what would have been a high 2nd round pick to a mid-range 2nd round pick + a useless player? Sweet moves Garpax The Bulls don't own their own 2018 or 2019 2nd round pick. They are eating Pondexter's contract in order to obtain New Orleans' 2018 2nd rounder. This is a good deal. It's ironic though that they traded their 2017 2nd for $3 million and now are eating $3 million plus on Pondexter's deal to acquire a 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm okay with it. 2nd round picks aren't crazy valuable but hey, its something. I just don't like when we "sell" them for cash vs. future picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 08:02 AM) The Bulls don't own their own 2018 or 2019 2nd round pick. They are eating Pondexter's contract in order to obtain New Orleans' 2018 2nd rounder. This is a good deal. It's ironic though that they traded their 2017 2nd for $3 million and now are eating $3 million plus on Pondexter's deal to acquire a 2nd round pick. Completely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 10:02 AM) The Bulls don't own their own 2018 or 2019 2nd round pick. They are eating Pondexter's contract in order to obtain New Orleans' 2018 2nd rounder. This is a good deal. It's ironic though that they traded their 2017 2nd for $3 million and now are eating $3 million plus on Pondexter's deal to acquire a 2nd round pick. The original post said "Bulls trade 2nd rounder to acquire Pondexter" which sounded absurd. If they didn't give up anything then it's fine. Still stupid as s*** to trade the 2nd rounder to GSW like they did. Edited September 1, 2017 by Jenksy Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The original reporting was from Shams that said bulls sent a second for pondexter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I still hate trading Bell for cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 11:22 AM) I still hate trading Bell for cash. Hey man, that cash allowed us to consume poindexters contract to get a future 2nd that we'll trade for cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 11:43 AM) Hey man, that cash allowed us to consume poindexters contract to get a future 2nd that we'll trade for cash. draftception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Gars totem is a Iowa State basketball spinning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 @brettmartel #Pelicans getting draft rights to international player Ater Majok as part of trade sending Pondexter, 2nd-rd pick, cash to the #Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 a 30 year old the Bulls got in a previous deal who has never seen the NBA. That must qualify as "compensation" in the deal for New Orleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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