Quin Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Bulls should be able to target a wing and a big now. If they get Ayton/Bagley/Bamba/Jackson, I'd love Vanderbilt or Knox if he falls. If they get Porter/Doncic/Trae, give me Yurtseven or McCoy, unless a good BPA falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:30 PM) Man, suddenly GarPax look like they know what they're doing again. I wonder if the second Niko trade was Paxson's doing because Forman couldn't get it done the first time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Quin @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:57 PM) Bulls should be able to target a wing and a big now. If they get Ayton/Bagley/Bamba/Jackson, I'd love Vanderbilt or Knox if he falls. If they get Porter/Doncic/Trae, give me Yurtseven or McCoy, unless a good BPA falls. This Bulls thing suddenly got very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:59 PM) I wonder if the second Niko trade was Paxson's doing because Forman couldn't get it done the first time... Niko balked at the deal (he has a no trade) because it didn't guarantee him the 2nd year and he would have lost his Bird rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:00 PM) Niko balked at the deal (he has a no trade) because it didn't guarantee him the 2nd year and he would have lost his Bird rights. And then NO made the Bulls pay more for picking up the second year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:00 PM) Niko balked at the deal (he has a no trade) because it didn't guarantee him the 2nd year and he would have lost his Bird rights. And once the second year was picked up, he lost his ability to block the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:01 PM) And then NO made the Bulls pay more for picking up the second year. At least 2nds in the NBA arent that valuable. If the Bulls want they can easily pick one up from another team for garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:18 PM) At least 2nds in the NBA arent that valuable. If the Bulls want they can easily pick one up from another team for garbage. Or $3.5 million... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:18 PM) Or $3.5 million... Exactly haha. 3.5mil is nothing to a NBA team. Its too bad the Clippers sold, because it seems like Pelicans are a lock for the playoffs so no lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Bulls should try and make Utah better. Looking at the west, there isn't a team that is gonna push new orleans down. Clips are out of it. Lakers, memphis, phoenix? hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:18 PM) At least 2nds in the NBA arent that valuable. If the Bulls want they can easily pick one up from another team for garbage. Once in a while they work out, especially if it is some guy stashed in Europe for a few years, like Niko. But generally, I agree, blah. And if there is someone they really like, they are easy to acquire on draft night. The problem with this trade is it helps NO get better not just with Niko but Monroe too. Looking at the West, it looks like they are just about a lock at a low playoff seed, even without Boogie. It's probably 50/50 at best the draft pick turns out to be a better player than Niko, but it helps the tank which really is probably the biggest asset the Bulls acquire. Edited February 1, 2018 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:24 PM) Once in a while they work out, especially if it is some guy stashed in Europe for a few years, like Niko. But generally, I agree, blah. The problem with this trade is it helps NO get better not just with Niko but Monroe too. Looking at the West, it looks like they are just about a lock at a low playoff seed, even without Boogie. It's probably 50/50 at best the draft pick turns out to be a better player than Niko, but it helps the tank which really is probably the biggest asset the Bulls acquire. Think part of the reason NO made the trade is that it seems really inconceivable that they miss the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:25 PM) Think part of the reason NO made the trade is that it seems really inconceivable that they miss the playoffs. Yes. The tank is on for a lot of teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Supposedly may not waive Nelson immediately. Washington has been trying to get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:44 PM) I'm inclined to agree. RoLo might be good for Cleveland but the Nets pick isn't going to come back for that. RoLo, Pelicans first and some Cavs salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:37 PM) RoLo, Pelicans first and some Cavs salary? They could get Robin Lopez for next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 02:37 PM) RoLo, Pelicans first and some Cavs salary? Wouldn't get the Nets pick, but I could see RoLo, Holiday, Jimmy TPE for Shump, Calderon and the Cavs 1st and future second. Then send Nelson to Wizards for a second this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (Quin @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:46 PM) Wouldn't get the Nets pick, but I could see RoLo, Holiday, Jimmy TPE for Shump, Calderon and the Cavs 1st and future second. Then send Nelson to Wizards for a second this year. This is more realistic but I don't think Bulls are interested in getting rid of holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:47 PM) This is more realistic but I don't think Bulls are interested in getting rid of holiday. I could see them moving him. I think current Dunn is minimum retain-able talent for this rebuild. Anyone serviceable but worse i potentially on the market to anyone interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 02:47 PM) This is more realistic but I don't think Bulls are interested in getting rid of holiday. I think they would if they get a first and out of RoLo's deal. Grant would be the only other player on the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 K.C. JohnsonVerified account @KCJHoop 2h2 hours ago Bulls will waive Quincy Pondexter to make trade work, source confirms. On it 1st: @ShamsCharania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 K.C. JohnsonVerified account @KCJHoop 2h2 hours ago The first-pick is protected top-5 in 2018, which @daldridgetnt had 1st, and top-8 in 2019, per source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 11:42 AM) They could get Robin Lopez for next to nothing. Bulls will not deal Lopez unless they get an asset for him. He's too strong of a presence and quality veteran to have the young players for the rebuild. If they get something worthwhile...sure...otherwise it isn't happening. I heard Woj on about a week ago and he had mentioned something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Nice trade. Hopefully Pelicans don't make playoffs and don't somehow pull a total fluke in the lottery haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Not to wish injury on players, but Davis and Holiday has had trouble staying healthy in the past. If they miss time the prospects of this pick suddenly looks a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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