Chicago White Sox Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:32 PM) Sure but it was never going to be a package "between that of Sale and Eaton" I 100% believe it would have been. Maybe closer to the Eaton deal then some of us originally thought, but I really think you are underselling him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Archer, might be available Gray, more likely Duffy, injured Cueto or Shark (big contracts) Who are the other options out there? Minnesota's not going to trade Erwin Santana now, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 Hanson turning into a nice surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Reached four times now. 28 singles, 2B, HR...forgot the homer he hit, haha. Moncada with go ahead RBI, yay. Edited June 17, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 05:45 PM) Archer, might be available Gray, more likely Duffy, injured Cueto or Shark (big contracts) Who are the other options out there? Minnesota's not going to trade Erwin Santana now, for example. Gray isn't any different than Q really. Archer has put up another Archer-like year....500 k's but still an ERA in the high 3's. Not as elite as one might believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (Scoots @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:46 PM) Hanson turning into a nice surprise. Jerry Owens esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Cueto looks terrible this season. Vargas is someone that will get dealt for quality prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I like how we look like the best offensive team in baseball tonight. It'd actually be nice if Melky could heat up before the break. I could see him being a nice fit for a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Melky trade value rapidly rising...at the very least, no contract subsidy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) Cueto looks terrible this season. Vargas is someone that will get dealt for quality prospects How can anyone trust Vargas coming off a major injury like that? He's going to run into problems the second half with innings piling up, although he's not the typical high effort thrower. I'd take Holland's playoff experience for 1/2 the price. Another pitcher who might move is the Dark Knight at a significant discount... Edited June 17, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Archer, Cole and Yu are the three that should worry Hahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:48 PM) Cueto looks terrible this season. Vargas is someone that will get dealt for quality prospects The Royals are back in the race, so Vargas might not go anywhere. Only a couple games back of Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Yolmer's pretty good at the defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 06:52 PM) Archer, Cole and Yu are the three that should worry Hahn I'm extremely doubtful the first two are getting moved, and skeptical of the last, although the Rangers may still crater. Darvish's value is a lot different since he's the closest thing to a true ace available and he's a FA at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:48 PM) Cueto looks terrible this season. Vargas is someone that will get dealt for quality prospects You literally just said posts ago that teams wouldn't pay up for Quintana because they want pitchers with that throw hard but you think someone will give up quality prospects for Vargas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I think Gray is the most worrisome to be honest, his velocity is up, he's getting a ton of grounders and he's now getting strikeouts, he's pitched much better than his numbers indicate. Cole is struggling and I think the Rangers will hang in there enough to not sell. Same with the Rays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) I don't see Banister and the Rangers doing a White Flag trade with them at .500, as long as they're right in the thick of the wild card race. Same reason Royals will wait until last second to decide on Vargas, Herrera, Hosmer, Moustakas and Cain. That's a lot of talent to ride the season out, but MN and CLE are keeping them in it. Cole Hamels and Gerrit Cole, two more big names, fwiw. McCutcheon more likely to go there. Edited June 17, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) Melky trade value rapidly rising...at the very least, no contract subsidy. I don't think anyone will give up anything but a lottery ticket regardless, but the less of his contract we have to eat the more we can contribute toward someone like Robertson's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Melky da five tooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 01:55 AM) You literally just said posts ago that teams wouldn't pay up for Quintana because they want pitchers with that throw hard but you think someone will give up quality prospects for Vargas? I don't think he will get a huge package in return at all. Only Archer and Cole fit that standard. Vargas is a much cheaper alternative though to Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Cabrera shaving off .1 or .15 from Q's ERA... Btw, amazing Grilli is still around. White Sox sort of saved his career back before the 2005 team was a glimmer in Ozzie's eye. Edited June 17, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Gray seems pretty likely to move, i'll agree. He's been decent and has the numbers to back it up. But there's multiple teams that could use a starter for multiple seasons, and Gray getting dealt doesn't preclude a Q trade. Even tho he's been dingered, he's having a pretty decent game tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:59 PM) Cabrera shaving off .1 or .15 from Q's ERA... That run would have been unearned anyway though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 12:57 AM) Melky da five tooler We probably sign Melky to a contract extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) Gray seems pretty likely to move, i'll agree. He's been decent and has the numbers to back it up. But there's multiple teams that could use a starter for multiple seasons, and Gray getting dealt doesn't preclude a Q trade. Even tho he's been dingered, he's having a pretty decent game tonight. This. Quintana's biggest hinderence is himself. If he pitches better in the coming weeks, I have complete faith a market will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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