Quin Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (zisk @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 01:41 PM) typical KW draft pick.great athlete,looks fab in the uniform. Only problem is he's not a baseball player. Man, don't know who it was last year that looked awesome defensively and was hitting. Guess it was just an athlete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (zisk @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) typical KW draft pick.great athlete,looks fab in the uniform. Only problem is he's not a baseball player. He was productive his entire way up the ladder in the minors and was an above average SS last year despite only playing 99 games. Pretty impressive for someone that isn't a baseball player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 12:46 PM) He was productive his entire way up the ladder in the minors and was an above average SS last year despite only playing 99 games. Pretty impressive for someone that isn't a baseball player. Small sample size,league has figured him out. Whatever you do just don't throw him a strike . He was productive in a sense in the minors in that he improved but his obp was always Mediocre even with a good ba.that 3 months of Defense last year is the best you will ever see from him. Bring back alexi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (zisk @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 12:57 PM) Small sample size,league has figured him out. Whatever you do just don't throw him a strike . He was productive in a sense in the minors in that he improved but his obp was always Mediocre even with a good ba.that 3 months of Defense last year is the best you will ever see from him. Bring back alexi. Alexei and Tim Anderson are so similar it isn't even funny. When Alexei got here, he had a ton of the same sorts of defensive problems with consistency and basic play execution. At the plate, they are the same hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 11:57 AM) Most of his defensive problems are just a lack of fundamental preparation, especially to his left where he rounds way too many balls off instead of putting the bill of his cap over his bellybutton and the ball. That's very correctable with time and experience. Agreed. that's why the progression isn't linear and he just needs the time to continue to work on it. In relative baseball years, he is still a very inexperienced player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (zisk @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 01:57 PM) Small sample size,league has figured him out. Whatever you do just don't throw him a strike . He was productive in a sense in the minors in that he improved but his obp was always Mediocre even with a good ba.that 3 months of Defense last year is the best you will ever see from him. Bring back alexi. This is a terrible post reeking of meatballism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (zisk @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 12:57 PM) Small sample size,league has figured him out. Whatever you do just don't throw him a strike . He was productive in a sense in the minors in that he improved but his obp was always Mediocre even with a good ba.that 3 months of Defense last year is the best you will ever see from him. Bring back alexi. Tim Anderson's cool He will certainly improve Enjoyed this haiku? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Edwards Shot Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) I honk this thread is ridiculous. As someone said, you're worried about the team's young shortstop, who didn't start playing baseball till he was 17/18 in the first year of a rebuild? I second this notion. People need to dial back on the impatience. Anderson only just turned 24, he's just a kid. If he's able to hit around .250 so far in the big leagues, he's doing pretty well. He is a super athlete with a high ceiling and his defense will get better with time. He needs a few years, which we have since we're rebuilding. If he is still the same two years from now, then I'll join the chorus of people with serious concerns. Edited June 26, 2017 by Doc Edwards Shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Tim Anderson's cool He will certainly improve Enjoyed this haiku? Meanwhile this is a great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 QUOTE (Doc Edwards Shot @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 01:58 PM) I second this notion. People need to dial back on the impatience. Anderson only just turned 24, he's just a kid. If he's able to hit around .250 so far in the big leagues, he's doing pretty well. He is a super athlete with a high ceiling and his defense will get better with time. He needs a few years, which we have since we're rebuilding. If he is still the same two years from now, then I'll join the chorus of people with serious concerns. I think there are legitimate concerns, not so much that he needs to be but today, but at least legitimate enough that the Sox need to make sure they have other options in the pipeline. Right now, they have 0 prospects in the minors that project to be even a replacement level SS in the majors. Its a major position of weakness in the system, and one of the hardest to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 fWAR down to -.4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) fWAR down to -.4 Nice reverse-jinx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 11:59 AM) Alexei and Tim Anderson are so similar it isn't even funny. When Alexei got here, he had a ton of the same sorts of defensive problems with consistency and basic play execution. At the plate, they are the same hitter. Yeah, except that one Ks to the tune of ~26% of his PAs, whereas the other only K'ed >13% once. Oh, and one has a contact rate of 70%, whereas the other had a contact rate well into the 80s. One had a silver slugger to his name, whereas the other one ride a whopping Wrc+ of 95 to sucker KW into giving him a contract extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 12:12 AM) Yeah, except that one Ks to the tune of ~26% of his PAs, whereas the other only K'ed >13% once. Oh, and one has a contact rate of 70%, whereas the other had a contact rate well into the 80s. One had a silver slugger to his name, whereas the other one ride a whopping Wrc+ of 95 to sucker KW into giving him a contract extension. I see your points and counter with the fact that you hate everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I'll only add that Alexei was criminally underrated by Sox fans. We'll be extremely lucky if Anderson is as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) I'll only add that Alexei was criminally underrated by Sox fans. We'll be extremely lucky if Anderson is as good. Agreed 100%. If Anderson becomes Alexei, that isn't a bad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 11:12 PM) Yeah, except that one Ks to the tune of ~26% of his PAs, whereas the other only K'ed >13% once. Oh, and one has a contact rate of 70%, whereas the other had a contact rate well into the 80s. One had a silver slugger to his name, whereas the other one ride a whopping Wrc+ of 95 to sucker KW into giving him a contract extension. lol@ KW. Man, some people hold tightly to old grudges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) I'll only add that Alexei was criminally underrated by Sox fans. We'll be extremely lucky if Anderson is as good. Yes, I agree. Alexei was mostly solid across the board defensively with flashes of being really good, he lost a step toward the end of his tenure here as age caught up with him, but he was a player that a lot of teams would have liked to have in his prime. Hopefully Anderson will make himself into frontline starter, but he has a long ways to go to catch the Missile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) Yes, I agree. Alexei was mostly solid across the board defensively with flashes of being really good, he lost a step toward the end of his tenure here as age caught up with him, but he was a player that a lot of teams would have liked to have in his prime. Hopefully Anderson will make himself into frontline starter, but he has a long ways to go to catch the Missile. Just to be clear, there is nothing wrong with the career of Alexei Ramirez as a whole. If we get that out of Tim Anderson, it is a win. The comp comes from both players being extreme free swingers who weren't interested in walks, extremely athletic players with long limbs and long but quick swings who could make the spectacular play in one moment, yet blow the routine play in the next. Both have/had plus speed, and bad base running instincts. Both are medium power guys with mostly gap power, but the ability to run into 10-15 per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 08:18 AM) I'll only add that Alexei was criminally underrated by Sox fans. We'll be extremely lucky if Anderson is as good. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Alexei was f***ing awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie for Manager Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 11:09 PM) I see your points and counter with the fact that you hate everything. That was great. Thanks for the laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Timely Fabian Ardaya @FabianArdaya 2h2 hours ago Tim Anderson is MLB's second-fastest SS on the bases this season (28.5 ft/sec), per @Statcast. Alen Hanson is the second-fastest 2B (28.7). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Can we lock this and have Ron remake it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 10:21 AM) Just to be clear, there is nothing wrong with the career of Alexei Ramirez as a whole. If we get that out of Tim Anderson, it is a win. The comp comes from both players being extreme free swingers who weren't interested in walks, extremely athletic players with long limbs and long but quick swings who could make the spectacular play in one moment, yet blow the routine play in the next. Both have/had plus speed, and bad base running instincts. Both are medium power guys with mostly gap power, but the ability to run into 10-15 per season. I'd be very happy if Anderson ended up having as good of a career as Alexei Ramirez. He was a quality player for us from 2009 to 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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