Tim Anderson

[South Side Fireworks Man]

Where are the "haters" coming from?

Timmy's mind?

[Quin]

Where are the "haters" coming from?

 

Bruh.

 

This thread.

[greg775]

I can imagine Anderson will be judged two different points of his career. a.) How he is doing as a member of one of the worst teams in baseball. b.) How he is doing as a contender. He has a free pass til the Sox are contenders. At that point, he'll be re-assessed again.

Same with Rodon, all the first-round prospects we've acquired. They won't truly be judged til we are contenders and their performance means something. Moncada could hit .100 up until the point we are considered a legitimate team. At that point and only that point would he be judged.

 

Anderson has a free pass right now. He should take advantage of it. I do stand by my comment that he should take off the rest of the season to properly get help for losing such a close friend. He could go play some lower level ball by his hometown to properly mourn. This is serious emotional stuff he's been through and if he needs help he should get it. Best wishes to TA.

Edited July 29, 2017 by greg775

[witesoxfan]

I can imagine Anderson will be judged two different points of his career. a.) How he is doing as a member of one of the worst teams in baseball. b.) How he is doing as a contender. He has a free pass til the Sox are contenders. At that point, he'll be re-assessed again.

Same with Rodon, all the first-round prospects we've acquired. They won't truly be judged til we are contenders and their performance means something. Moncada could hit .100 up until the point we are considered a legitimate team. At that point and only that point would he be judged.

 

Anderson has a free pass right now. He should take advantage of it. I do stand by my comment that he should take off the rest of the season to properly get help for losing such a close friend. He could go play some lower level ball by his hometown to properly mourn. This is serious emotional stuff he's been through and if he needs help he should get it. Best wishes to TA.

 

He absolutely does not have a free pass until the Sox are contenders. Assuming everything works out, they'll be contending in 2019 or 2020. Not everything works out that way all the time. It's certainly possible that prospects bust, the Sox don't have the pieces, and they aren't contenders until 2030. That would be awful, but it's certainly possible.

 

Anderson will probably be a given chances into and maybe through 2019, but they'll be looking for replacements at that point if there's nothing from him.

[Wanne]

yeah...wondering if this will shift the Sox draft philosophy next year? Will they look at taking Turang first?...or the highest rated SS in the 2nd.

[ChiSoxJon]

Hire Vizquel away from the Tigers for Anderson...Ron Washington, another, he worked really hard with Semien.

Wouldn't mind Washington as MNGR when the team can compete

[Dick Allen]

Wouldn't mind Washington as MNGR when the team can compete

He might snort the foul lines.

[greg775]

He absolutely does not have a free pass until the Sox are contenders. Assuming everything works out, they'll be contending in 2019 or 2020. Not everything works out that way all the time. It's certainly possible that prospects bust, the Sox don't have the pieces, and they aren't contenders until 2030. That would be awful, but it's certainly possible.

 

Anderson will probably be a given chances into and maybe through 2019, but they'll be looking for replacements at that point if there's nothing from him.

How can you judge a guy when the team is this bad? You go to the park and it really means nothing. Sure you might want good personal stats but I'd assume it affects your entire plate appearance. If team is down 7-0 in the fourth and the team is 15 games back of first, how can you care about working the count, etc. You just try to hit a homer. Now if the team is a contender and every bat counts, there'd be more concentration I'd think. This losing stuff can go both ways. You might get a high draft pick, but I would think (not saying I'm right) it would affect everybody on the current roster in a not so good way. I guess trying to earn a big time contract might be incentive enough, possibly.

[South Side Fireworks Man]

He might snort the foul lines.

[Balta1701]

yeah...wondering if this will shift the Sox draft philosophy next year? Will they look at taking Turang first?...or the highest rated SS in the 2nd.

I don't think they'll consider Anderson at all when they're making their draft picks next year. If they have a top grade for a SS they won't hesitate to take a SS because their system doesn't have a high ranking SS at any level and because if Anderson does turn it around in a year or two there won't be any problem moving a guy from SS to 3b or CF or whatever opening they have. That is one of the nice things about SS's, they tend to be good athletes and you can move them to whatever is open other than the catcher's spot.

 

After the first pick, I still generally expect them to go best available, but I do think it'll be a pitching heavy draft because they didn't pick up many pitchers this year, meaning they will have a whole lot of openings at lower levels for pitchers from next year's draft. That, and the White Sox tend to draft pitching heavy most years anyway.

[Wanne]

I don't think they'll consider Anderson at all when they're making their draft picks next year. If they have a top grade for a SS they won't hesitate to take a SS because their system doesn't have a high ranking SS at any level and because if Anderson does turn it around in a year or two there won't be any problem moving a guy from SS to 3b or CF or whatever opening they have. That is one of the nice things about SS's, they tend to be good athletes and you can move them to whatever is open other than the catcher's spot.

 

After the first pick, I still generally expect them to go best available, but I do think it'll be a pitching heavy draft because they didn't pick up many pitchers this year, meaning they will have a whole lot of openings at lower levels for pitchers from next year's draft. That, and the White Sox tend to draft pitching heavy most years anyway.

 

Fair enough...but the second part of your first sentence kind of gives a sound reasoning to take Turang (if they feel he's worthy) overall...or possibly Madrigal if they're picking 2nd or 3rd. There's a dearth of SS talent in the system. We got plenty of big bats (sorry Beer fans)...

[witesoxfan]

How can you judge a guy when the team is this bad? You go to the park and it really means nothing. Sure you might want good personal stats but I'd assume it affects your entire plate appearance. If team is down 7-0 in the fourth and the team is 15 games back of first, how can you care about working the count, etc. You just try to hit a homer. Now if the team is a contender and every bat counts, there'd be more concentration I'd think. This losing stuff can go both ways. You might get a high draft pick, but I would think (not saying I'm right) it would affect everybody on the current roster in a not so good way. I guess trying to earn a big time contract might be incentive enough, possibly.

 

If Tim Anderson has 3 terrible years in a row, then I've seen enough of him, and I'm sure the organization will have as well.

[harkness99]

No, he needs to take his lumps and get better. This is a rebuild. Its not like we have some other SS prospect pushing Timmy out. Let him learn at the major league level and get better.

 

He needs a change of some sort... what is happening down does not look productive at all.

 

He is getting more mentally defeated with each game and he looks out of it.

 

I'm not giving up on him by any means.. he just looks lost out there and its getting worse.

[Balta1701]

Fair enough...but the second part of your first sentence kind of gives a sound reasoning to take Turang (if they feel he's worthy) overall...or possibly Madrigal if they're picking 2nd or 3rd. There's a dearth of SS talent in the system. We got plenty of big bats (sorry Beer fans)...

If you're drafting a guy 1 or 2 you better be hoping he's a "Big bat", even if he's a shortstop. Do your homework, meet the people, come up with a "1,2,3" order, and take the highest ranked guy remaining. If you have pick 1, then whoever is #1 is #1 - pitcher or hitter or SS or OF or whatever.

[Eminor3rd]

Fair enough...but the second part of your first sentence kind of gives a sound reasoning to take Turang (if they feel he's worthy) overall...or possibly Madrigal if they're picking 2nd or 3rd. There's a dearth of SS talent in the system. We got plenty of big bats (sorry Beer fans)...

 

I just don't think there's any real argument to targeting specific positions, ESPECIALLY at this point. Given the attrition rate of prospectys, and how early we are in this process, there's no way to tell which positions we will need when it's time to be competitive. If we ever do somehow find ourselves with too many of one thing and not enough of another, that's when you trade from surplus.

 

The answer MUST be BPA every time.

[Jake]

Funny thing about the tweet is judging from the replies, it may have gotten Tim what he needed, aka "the love"

Edited July 30, 2017 by Jake

[soxforlife05]

yeah...wondering if this will shift the Sox draft philosophy next year? Will they look at taking Turang first?...or the highest rated SS in the 2nd.

 

I think turang makes sense both as a bpa and an organizational need

[southsider2k5]

Daryl Van Schouwen‏Verified account @CST_soxvan 25m25 minutes ago #whitesox shortstop Tim Anderson has hit safely in 10 of last 11 games, going 15-for-48 (.313) with 4 HR, 4 doubles, 10 RBI, 8 runs scored.

 

 

[Jordan4life_2007]

I just don't think there's any real argument to targeting specific positions, ESPECIALLY at this point. Given the attrition rate of prospectys, and how early we are in this process, there's no way to tell which positions we will need when it's time to be competitive. If we ever do somehow find ourselves with too many of one thing and not enough of another, that's when you trade from surplus.

 

The answer MUST be BPA every time.

 

 

Didn't realize this was an old post. Point still remains.

Edited August 15, 2017 by Jordan4life

[Boopa1219]

I just don't think there's any real argument to targeting specific positions, ESPECIALLY at this point. Given the attrition rate of prospectys, and how early we are in this process, there's no way to tell which positions we will need when it's time to be competitive. If we ever do somehow find ourselves with too many of one thing and not enough of another, that's when you trade from surplus.

 

The answer MUST be BPA every time.

 

That's how you build dynasties. Always taking the best player available.

[southsider2k5]

Daryl Van Schouwen‏Verified account @CST_soxvan 37m37 minutes ago Tim Anderson has hit safely in 11 of his last 12 games, going 16-for 52 (.308) with 5 homers, 4 doubles, 11 RBI and nine runs scored.

 

 

[OmarComing25]

Anderson is hitting .297/.311/.559 (126 wRC+) with a .262 ISO since the beginning of August (148 PA), and his BABIP is a not too outlandish .360 over that time for a guy with his speed. Got his WAR back into positive territory after yesterday's game.

[southsider2k5]

Anderson is hitting .297/.311/.559 (126 wRC+) with a .262 ISO since the beginning of August (148 PA), and his BABIP is a not too outlandish .360 over that time for a guy with his speed. Got his WAR back into positive territory after yesterday's game.

 

I said it in a post in a different thread last week, but his defense has also stepped way back up. Anderson had 22 errors over 91 games in April through July. In the 35 games since he has a total of 4 errors.

[Ducksnort]

I said it in a post in a different thread last week, but his defense has also stepped way back up. Anderson had 22 errors over 91 games in April through July. In the 35 games since he has a total of 4 errors.

Very very encouraging to see. Good thing he can get a fresh start next year

[Kyyle23]

i believe one of the beat guys tweeted that TAs upswing coincided with him starting to see a grief counselor in late July