chitownsportsfan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 09:47 AM) I said it in a post in a different thread last week, but his defense has also stepped way back up. Anderson had 22 errors over 91 games in April through July. In the 35 games since he has a total of 4 errors. Let me just pile on the praise for the young man -- he's been really good in the last two months and it's been all around, with the glove too. He's always going to be a guy that relies on his BA to drive his offensive value (and will run hot and cold) but he has to be a consistent, average defender at SS to be a starter even when his bat is scuffling. He has the potential to be much more than a 1-2 WAR player. But for now I'm happy to see him looking like a decent regular again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 12:12 PM) Let me just pile on the praise for the young man -- he's been really good in the last two months and it's been all around, with the glove too. He's always going to be a guy that relies on his BA to drive his offensive value (and will run hot and cold) but he has to be a consistent, average defender at SS to be a starter even when his bat is scuffling. He has the potential to be much more than a 1-2 WAR player. But for now I'm happy to see him looking like a decent regular again. I believe someone used the defensive comp of Jose Valentin. If not, I would make it myself. Both are extremely toolsy, possess great instincts, a lightning quick first step, but lack fundamental technique and maybe some focus at times. Both can make the spectacular play and then let a ball go through their legs on the next play. They both have great arms, and because of that don't square up, set and throw, leading to bad arm angles and path throw paths at times. The tools are there for Anderson to be a + defensive SS, he just had to put the work in and fix some of the technique problems he has. Otherwise he will always a sporadic defensive SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It just seems to me defensively to be reps. So many throwing errors when he was set on a routine grounder, then double clutches. I just feel like that will become a natural throw. He seems so much more natural on a play where he is running full speed off balance and has to just let instincts get the ball out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Very encouraging to see Anderson start to turn things around. He's always going to be a limited offensive player due to his lack of taking walks, but the mix of power & speed along with potentially above average defense could result in a 3 to 4 WAR player down the road. I'm very glad they stuck with him through this tragedy despite how poor the results were. He's an important part of this team's future and I fully expect a significant leap in development in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 11:33 AM) i believe one of the beat guys tweeted that TAs upswing coincided with him starting to see a grief counselor in late July I can believe this. A few if us around here have been saying to give TA more time because of his loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 11:41 AM) I can believe this. A few if us around here have been saying to give TA more time because of his loss. Ill bet players weekend offered some healing for him as well. Being able to wear his friends name on his jersey probably helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 01:40 PM) Very encouraging to see Anderson start to turn things around. He's always going to be a limited offensive player due to his lack of taking walks, but the mix of power & speed along with potentially above average defense could result in a 3 to 4 WAR player down the road. I'm very glad they stuck with him through this tragedy despite how poor the results were. He's an important part of this team's future and I fully expect a significant leap in development in 2018. yea agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I love seeing Anderson and Moncada go 1-2 in the lineup that should happen like.... every game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Anderson had his first career four-hit game against the Tigers, going 4-for-5 with three singles, a double and two stolen bases. The White Sox shortstop has been on fire as of late. In September, Anderson is batting .428 with four doubles, two homers and eight RBIs to go along with 13 runs and seven stolen bases. He also has nine multi-hit games in his last 12 outings and extended his hitting streak to eight games. Per CSN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 17, 2017 -> 12:27 PM) Anderson had his first career four-hit game against the Tigers, going 4-for-5 with three singles, a double and two stolen bases. The White Sox shortstop has been on fire as of late. In September, Anderson is batting .428 with four doubles, two homers and eight RBIs to go along with 13 runs and seven stolen bases. He also has nine multi-hit games in his last 12 outings and extended his hitting streak to eight games. Per CSN quite the remarkable turnaround for TA. Somehow he now sits at .3 fWAR for the season. He has a chance to finish around 1 fWAR and run neutral at SS defense wise. Pretty encouraging, although obviously he can't just crater the first half again next year. But he won't have the new contract pressure and I pray he doesn't have any more deaths in his circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 The fact that he could realistically finish with an OPS over .700, given where it was a month ago and during the ASB, is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 If he can provide a league average bat to go along with the elite defense we saw last year, he can be a 4 WAR player going forward. He's taken massive strides toward being that player again over the 2nd half of the year, and next year is his age 25 season. If he can manage to improve his bat (ideally by improving his plate discipline) to anything above league average, he could become an elite player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 04:52 PM) If he can provide a league average bat to go along with the elite defense we saw last year, he can be a 4 WAR player going forward. He's taken massive strides toward being that player again over the 2nd half of the year, and next year is his age 25 season. If he can manage to improve his bat (ideally by improving his plate discipline) to anything above league average, he could become an elite player. For how many years? Just curious as to how the WAR people look at longevity. Five great seasons in a Sox uniform then dump him? Or can he continue past 30 and excel as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Over that six weeks he is slashing .317/.328/.532/.860 Dan HayesVerified account @CSNHayes 35m35 minutes ago #WhiteSox SS Tim Anderson has hits in 36 of 44 games from Aug. 1 on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) For how many years? Just curious as to how the WAR people look at longevity. Five great seasons in a Sox uniform then dump him? Or can he continue past 30 and excel as well? His value is probably going to be tied largely to athleticism, so as that goes, so likely will go his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) Over that six weeks he is slashing .317/.328/.532/.860 Dan HayesVerified account @CSNHayes 35m35 minutes ago #WhiteSox SS Tim Anderson has hits in 36 of 44 games from Aug. 1 on. Still needs to draw more walks, but he definitely has the talent to be a very good hitter. He was a nice find. I remember being upset that the Sox just missed JP Crawford, but I definitely like Anderson more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 10:39 PM) His value is probably going to be tied largely to athleticism, so as that goes, so likely will go his value. So basically enjoy 4-5 seasons of Tim. That's about it for him. Hopefully we'll be WS good in years 3, 4, 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 12:18 PM) So basically enjoy 4-5 seasons of Tim. That's about it for him. Hopefully we'll be WS good in years 3, 4, 5. I'd be surprised if he can't maintain his body and skill level into his early 30s, so I'd say more like 7-9 productive seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 12:45 PM) I'd be surprised if he can't maintain his body and skill level into his early 30s, so I'd say more like 7-9 productive seasons. The trick's going to be plate discipline. If he is in his 20s and has quick enough wrists to catch up to any fastball, then he's in good shape. If he keeps trying to swing at everything including stuff out of the zone and relying on athleticism only to keep going, then the moment his arms or wrists or anything slow down, then he will face a cliff. Making the pitcher actually throw him strikes makes that adaptation easier as he won't have to cover a 20 square foot strike zone or whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I did not know the hill and flag pole were removed. I guess I need to watch more Astros baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 01:07 PM) I did not know the hill and flag pole were removed. I guess I need to watch more Astros baseball. $20 million renovation last offseason. The H out there was kinda neat. It still has the vertical wall where a ball on the left side is a double and a ball on the right side is a HR - that cost us a HR in the 05 world series game 3, but at least now there's replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I kinda liked the hill. Baseball fields are too samey now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) I kinda liked the hill. Baseball fields are too samey now. lol...like in HS...snow fences and "over the swing set is a home run" kinda stuff. I'm down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 01:17 PM) $20 million renovation last offseason. The H out there was kinda neat. It still has the vertical wall where a ball on the left side is a double and a ball on the right side is a HR - that cost us a HR in the 05 world series game 3, but at least now there's replay. Imagine my surprise though when I thought it had no chance and low and behold it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 22, 2017 -> 02:55 PM) I kinda liked the hill. Baseball fields are too samey now. Wasn't it removed because it provided an injury risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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