Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) Also, if he's gonna be so bad he might as well be doing this year. Tanking is ugly boys. He was rushed. He's gona have growing pains. They all will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Kind of sounds like Frazier was a pretty good influence on him too. Losing a guy who's been there for you throughout your time in the majors is not a small thing either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 11:38 AM) Tim Anderson will come around just fine. People need to have some heart. We are dealing with human beings here. Pretty sure he has a home in Charlotte. I don't see why giving him some time away from major league failure night in and out is heartless. Why isn't it heartless forcing him to play instead of letting him sit or take a paid leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Ventura_Roberts Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 For better or worse, we will get a real sense of Tim Anderson next year. My hunch is that he will be the player that the White Sox think he will be. In any case, he is one of those players where the most practical thing is to be patient and wait while focusing on other things. For the time being, I would like to get a sense of the rebuilding of the pitching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Kind of sounds like Frazier was a pretty good influence on him too. Losing a guy who's been there for you throughout your time in the majors is not a small thing either. Losing somebody close to you is one thing. I get that, grief sucks. But ballplayers get traded, this is not breaking news to anyone. I doubt that's a big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 01:29 PM) Pretty sure he has a home in Charlotte. I don't see why giving him some time away from major league failure night in and out is heartless. Why isn't it heartless forcing him to play instead of letting him sit or take a paid leave? Who knows...I know opinions vary. Maybe it would be looked at as a form of "abandonment" by Anderson if he got sent down which is probably the worst thing. I think giving him some time off might be a good thing...but still being around his teammates for support. Nobody really knows except TA and those closest to him. He's young...and like many said will have growing pains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 FWIW, he's not starting tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) FWIW, he's not starting tonight Now that we have another middle infielder, I wouldn't mind some extra days off for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 James Fegan @JRFegan Tim Anderson was upfront about his struggles again, said it's been his most difficult year but "my best years are yet to come" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) he's just not that good. much of his value last year was due to his surprising defense, which appears to have been an anomaly based on his minor league track record and results from this year. His power last year was also surprising, and that could continue to develop, but bottom line is you can't have an obp of .266 Edited July 22, 2017 by daa84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor Ding-Dong Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 His defense is concerning, but I have more faith in him becoming an average defender at SS than him ever learning how to work the count and draw a walk. I'm really concerned about his development, tbh. At least he's become a god on my OOTP save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I don't know how much of it is his grief, but he's clearly not in a good place mentally. It's easy to let the struggles pile on each other until you can't really play well anymore. I've been worried for a while that he's let the season get away, but I do worry that a demotion would be such a shock to the system that he might just flounder down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) Dan Hayes has been very vocally against this. Seems to think he's been very affected by the stuff off the field. Not saying I disagree, but my guess is he knows things we don't. I remember Alexei recently having basically season long struggles over a death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) He still makes some great plays. The ability is there. It seems to me he is trying to make every play look spectacular. Even when he has plenty of time to set himself and make a throw he seems to be throwing on the run from a crazy angle. This is a guy with the physical ability to make tough plays look routine, I don't know if it is his friends death, trying to live up to the contract, or just some sort of slump, but I think it can be corrected. All the tools are there for him to be successful. Whether he ultimately uses them properly is the question IMO. There are going to be bumps along the road for most, if not all of these prospects. Edited July 23, 2017 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Benched again today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 QUOTE (daa84 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) he's just not that good. much of his value last year was due to his surprising defense, which appears to have been an anomaly based on his minor league track record and results from this year. His power last year was also surprising, and that could continue to develop, but bottom line is you can't have an obp of .266 On a rebuilding team, why not? If he's going to have a bad year in his career, this is the perfect time for it, for many reasons. First, this year doesn't matter, so his struggles are helping the team accomplish their goals. Second, it lets the org know that a lack of depth at SS is unacceptable because there's a chance he could not be a ML caliber SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I was commenting to a friend last night how as soon as I get down on Anderson, he'll do one of those rangy grabs where he just turns his hips and fires off a hard strike to first while running sideways like it's the easiest thing. At the plate, the ball really flies when he squares it up and his swing just looks quick. Of course, as of late he rarely squares it up and as another poster said, really seems to be going up there without a plan. But I've grown more confident that the underlying talent is there—not just athleticism, but baseball talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor Ding-Dong Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Ok, I'm starting to think he might benefit from some more time in AAA. He looks totally clueless at the plate and it's not like he's making up for it in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) I was commenting to a friend last night how as soon as I get down on Anderson, he'll do one of those rangy grabs where he just turns his hips and fires off a hard strike to first while running sideways like it's the easiest thing. At the plate, the ball really flies when he squares it up and his swing just looks quick. Of course, as of late he rarely squares it up and as another poster said, really seems to be going up there without a plan. But I've grown more confident that the underlying talent is there—not just athleticism, but baseball talent. This is a good post. There's no harm with seeing what Anderson has to offer for the next 2 years, maybe even more. If it gets to the point where he is looking like nothing but a utility player, then there is an obvious need to look into finding a new SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) I was commenting to a friend last night how as soon as I get down on Anderson, he'll do one of those rangy grabs where he just turns his hips and fires off a hard strike to first while running sideways like it's the easiest thing. At the plate, the ball really flies when he squares it up and his swing just looks quick. Of course, as of late he rarely squares it up and as another poster said, really seems to be going up there without a plan. But I've grown more confident that the underlying talent is there—not just athleticism, but baseball talent. I don't think any of us knows how much Steverson is working with the guy...but right now...it really doesn't appear to be all that much because he does go up to the plate without much of a plan. That swinging at first pitch at bat...ugh. Wtf is Steverson actually doing with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I don't care if he chases first pitch, but at least have a plan and swing hard. He rarely hits anything with authority anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 06:43 PM) I don't care if he chases first pitch, but at least have a plan and swing hard. He rarely hits anything with authority anymore Hopefully this is the lowest point of his career, today. His swings are just so half assed. It's one thing to not have a plan. It's another thing to go up there half swinging the bat. I hope Todd can convince him to just look fastball the rest of this season and to go up there and take a pitch most AB just to see it and then SWING LIKE YOU MEAN IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 07:20 PM) Hopefully this is the lowest point of his career, today. His swings are just so half assed. It's one thing to not have a plan. It's another thing to go up there half swinging the bat. I hope Todd can convince him to just look fastball the rest of this season and to go up there and take a pitch most AB just to see it and then SWING LIKE YOU MEAN IT. Lou Brock said it best - "Show me a guy who's afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) Lou Brock said it best - "Show me a guy who's afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time." well said, reminds me of the end of my playing days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 05:43 PM) I don't care if he chases first pitch, but at least have a plan and swing hard. He rarely hits anything with authority anymore Also a very lazy player. Lazy defense causing him to have the most errors, lazy approach causing him to strikeout, lazy base running. The dude basically walks out the box every time he hits something. Just a flat out lazy player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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