GGajewski18 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 08:24 AM) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 44s Sources: #Brewers are prepared to buy at Trade Deadline and have begun background work on Jose Quintana, Sonny Gray and other starters. @MLB Brinson, Ortiz, and Gatewood. or Ray, Ortiz, Phillips, and Supak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I feel like Brinson would all but be off the table. Brewers get: Jose Quintana White Sox get: Corey Ray, Brett Phillips, Trent Clark and Monte Harrison. Who says no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 The next three days will be tell tale signs to both cub and Brewers. I hope Billy Beane makes the cubs pay through the nose for Gray. The cubs will probably just take on Verlander's whole deal and give up a nothing prospect along with Avila. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:23 AM) The next three days will be tell tale signs to both cub and Brewers. I hope Billy Beane makes the cubs pay through the nose for Gray. The cubs will probably just take on Verlander's whole deal and give up a nothing prospect along with Avila. Apparently the Tigers want a team to take on Verlander's contract and send over 3 good prospects. Of course, that's where I would start with negotiations and ultimately, I think it's more of a salary dump with a good prospect and a couple alright prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) I feel like Brinson would all but be off the table. Brewers get: Jose Quintana White Sox get: Corey Ray, Brett Phillips, Trent Clark and Monte Harrison. Who says no? I don't know who says no, but Brett Phillips thinks it's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 The one thing worth noting is that Milwaukee's AAA team plays in Colorado, which means there are going to be a lot of altitude driven stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:30 AM) The one thing worth noting is that Milwaukee's AAA team plays in Colorado, which means there are going to be a lot of altitude driven stats. Out of their top 10 hitters wise, only Brinson and Phillips play there and I'd still gladly take both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Instead of Brinson, see if they'd compromise on Ray-Hader dual headliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) I feel like Brinson would all but be off the table. Brewers get: Jose Quintana White Sox get: Corey Ray, Brett Phillips, Trent Clark and Monte Harrison. Who says no? Why would the White Sox or Brewers trade or trade for four outfield prospects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:47 AM) Instead of Brinson, see if they'd compromise on Ray-Hader dual headliner. I don't love that Ray and Hader are both not performing very well in the minors this season. Ray has speed, but has not shown much power or ability to hit for average yet. Hader still walks too many guys. I just do not have a great feeling for either of those prospects to want to deal Q for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:53 AM) Why would the White Sox or Brewers trade or trade for four outfield prospects? Especially since they also have some nice IF guys in Isan Diaz and Lucas Erceg that would look really good in our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Honestly I'm just happy about a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 10:53 AM) Why would the White Sox or Brewers trade or trade for four outfield prospects? Brewers get: Jose Quintana White Sox get: Corey Ray, Brett Phillips, Lucas Erceg, and Trey Supak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) Apparently the Tigers want a team to take on Verlander's contract and send over 3 good prospects. Of course, that's where I would start with negotiations and ultimately, I think it's more of a salary dump with a good prospect and a couple alright prospects. Verlander still has to ok any trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Quintana for either Brinson, Ortiz, Phillips, and Kirby OR Q for Ray, Hader, Woodruff, Phillips if we deal with MIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I get the whole hometown ACE program angle, but Ray has done absolutely nothing in the minors aside from strike out and be a well below average hitter in a league in which he's older than the average age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) I get the whole hometown ACE program angle, but Ray has done absolutely nothing in the minors aside from strike out and be a well below average hitter in a league in which he's older than the average age. You CANNOT have Ray be the headliner in a Quintana trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) Especially since they also have some nice IF guys in Isan Diaz and Lucas Erceg that would look really good in our system. I admittedly know next to nothing about Erceg, but he looks like the type of guy we've been trying to get away from. Low OBP and allergic to the walk. Much prefer Isan Diaz as the IF piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Come on Brewers! Keep on winning over the next 3 weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) Especially since they also have some nice IF guys in Isan Diaz and Lucas Erceg that would look really good in our system. I have my doubts the Brewers make the splash for a big time starter like Gray or Quintana. They have built up a solid farm system and I can't imagine a small market club blowing that up at this point. Unless they view this as their chance to sneak past the Cubs and win the central division? I'd likely have to either insist on Brinson headlining the deal, or would need 3-4 very good prospects back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) I have my doubts the Brewers make the splash for a big time starter like Gray or Quintana. They have built up a solid farm system and I can't imagine a small market club blowing that up at this point. Unless they view this as their chance to sneak past the Cubs and win the central division? I'd likely have to either insist on Brinson headlining the deal, or would need 3-4 very good prospects back. I think they can make a trade without making a huge dent. Aren't they a top 5 farm system? Especially if a trade involved an OF as the center piece (Brinson or Phillips; both having great years). They seem to be set in the OF for a while. Edited July 7, 2017 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) I think they can make a trade without making a huge dent. Especially if the center-piece is an OF. I doubt they are willing to move Brinson considering his high upside, and I'm not that high on Corey Ray or Hader. A Brinson + Ortiz + 1 or two lower level prospects would be a solid haul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:05 AM) I doubt they are willing to move Brinson considering his high upside, and I'm not that high on Corey Ray or Hader. A Brinson + Ortiz + 1 or two lower level prospects would be a solid haul What about a left-handed hitting Phillips? Braun is there through 2020 and Domingo Santana is going to hold down a spot. Plus, if they deal for Q and then next year guys on the team regress and they look to be an under .500 team, they have pieces to deal at the deadline, including Q, Braun, Thames etc. It's basically the Pirates scenario we all discussed in the off-season. Edited July 7, 2017 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Any starting pitcher the #Brewers would have interest in would have to have control beyond 2017, so Jose Quintana and Sonny Gray fit that. https://twitter.com/Haudricourt/status/883344088283664384 Do not expect #Brewers to get silly and trade away all their top prospects, however. Long view still in effect while short view entices. https://twitter.com/Haudricourt/status/883344398217555968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:47 AM) Instead of Brinson, see if they'd compromise on Ray-Hader dual headliner. Pre-rebuild, the Sox would be all over Ray. Not now. The guy whiffs way, way, way too much. If Brinson isn't in the deal, the Brewers only serve to drive the price up on Q with no shot at all of landing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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