southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 With what we have gotten out of Smith and Narvaez so far this year, should the White Sox put in a claim on Miguel Montero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) With what we have gotten out of Smith and Narvaez so far this year, should the White Sox put in a claim on Miguel Montero? I don't think they should but I wouldn't care that much if they did. I would probably just wait for him to clear and go to free agency first so he's at least league minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) He is getting paid $14M this year........if you claim him, you're responsible for the pro-rated portion, or a little over $7M. I'd much rather Jerry eat money in trades for better prospects than claiming Montero. Edited June 29, 2017 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Should read...should they try to work out a deal once he goes to league minimum from the Sox perspective? Opportunity cost...playing time for Narvaez/Smith vs. the possibility of flipping Montero for something if he was hot offensively. Does anyone actually see either of those two starting for the Sox in 2-3 years? Will Montero mean 1-2 more wins and a 5 or 6 pick instead of 3-4? That said, there are a lot of ex Sox catchers around the big leagues. So we've actually done okay cultivating back ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) Should read...should they try to work out a deal once he goes to league minimum from the Sox perspective? Opportunity cost...playing time for Narvaez/Smith vs. the possibility of flipping Montero for something if he was hot offensively. Does anyone actually see either of those two starting for the Sox in 2-3 years? Will Montero mean 1-2 more wins and a 5 or 6 pick instead of 3-4? That said, there are a lot of ex Sox catchers around the big leagues. So we've actually done okay cultivating back ups. Phegley and Flowers come to mind with Oakland and Atlanta...who else though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 If they can get him for the prorated minimum, and he's considered a good receiver and pitch caller, sure why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Oh god no. The man chews his food while he is talking on the phone doing interviews. He is disqualified just because of that in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (Scoots @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 10:26 AM) Phegley and Flowers come to mind with Oakland and Atlanta...who else though? Chris Stewart...Pirates Tyler Flowers has a 1.7 fWAR, 6th best catcher in baseball. SIGH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I don't think so, we may have some young pitchers up and not sure he's the receiver to deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Pick him up and look to package him at the deadline for a team that needs catching help then that doesn't now. Also have him play all four games against the cubs just for a story-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 No, not worth the hassle and impact it might have on the pitching staff, especially when Lopez and Rodon are both in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Can't throw. Framing is getting bad, and clubhouse cancer. I don't know what value he brings to a rebuilding team other than pointing a finger away from him. The Cubs and Maddon especially, were very worried what his attitude might do to their young players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 12:45 PM) Can't throw. Framing is getting bad, and clubhouse cancer. I don't know what value he brings to a rebuilding team other than pointing a finger away from him. The Cubs and Maddon especially, were very worried what his attitude might do to their young players. Agreed. MLB career is on life support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) Can't throw. Framing is getting bad, and clubhouse cancer. I don't know what value he brings to a rebuilding team other than pointing a finger away from him. The Cubs and Maddon especially, were very worried what his attitude might do to their young players. I'm with you. A rebuilding team with no hope at contention this year...last thing you want is a character concern like this around the teams young players (and there isn't much upside in the matter either). Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I was surprised that it took this long for a thread to pop up. Like most forums anyone that has a name and a pulse is always considered. We could always use another NL guy that can't handle AL pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 04:08 PM) He is getting paid $14M this year........if you claim him, you're responsible for the pro-rated portion, or a little over $7M. I'd much rather Jerry eat money in trades for better prospects than claiming Montero. 14 million? He's thrown out zero runners all year. What a bizarre business is baseball. How did a player this bad get a contract paying him 14 million bucks? It's all ridiculous, folks. It's just money. I hope Jerry throws it away. Sign the guy. I'm very very pissed that myfavorite team is done before July again. This organization blows. Spend spend spend, Jerry. sign him. Thank goodness we won one title in 05 cause we're not winning another until Jerry and his posse sell and we start over. MARK CUBAN save us please. Edited June 29, 2017 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Nah. He's always been controversial on the clubhouse, pitchers don't want to change catchers midseason, wins don't matter for us this years, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 01:49 PM) 14 million? He's thrown out zero runners all year. What a bizarre business is baseball. How did a player this bad get a contract paying him 14 million bucks? It's all ridiculous, folks. It's just money. I hope Jerry throws it away. Sign the guy. I'm very very pissed that myfavorite team is done before July again. This organization blows. Spend spend spend, Jerry. sign him. Thank goodness we won one title in 05 cause we're not winning another until Jerry and his posse sell and we start over. MARK CUBAN save us please. greg I'm starting to actually be concerned for your health. Do you realize you spent exactly 50% of this post to the word bashing the guy as an overpaid chump and the rest of it pleading for us to sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) 14 million? He's thrown out zero runners all year. What a bizarre business is baseball. How did a player this bad get a contract paying him 14 million bucks? It's all ridiculous, folks. It's just money. I hope Jerry throws it away. Sign the guy. I'm very very pissed that myfavorite team is done before July again. This organization blows. Spend spend spend, Jerry. sign him. Thank goodness we won one title in 05 cause we're not winning another until Jerry and his posse sell and we start over. MARK CUBAN save us please. Not that you actually follow baseball, but why don't you just stop coming on here? Whats the point? What are you accomplishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 01:49 PM) 14 million? He's thrown out zero runners all year. What a bizarre business is baseball. How did a player this bad get a contract paying him 14 million bucks? It's all ridiculous, folks. It's just money. I hope Jerry throws it away. Sign the guy. I'm very very pissed that myfavorite team is done before July again. This organization blows. Spend spend spend, Jerry. sign him. Thank goodness we won one title in 05 cause we're not winning another until Jerry and his posse sell and we start over. MARK CUBAN save us please. Because agents are smarter than GM's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 No not worth the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 04:43 PM) This guy is an awful teammate. I hope he rots in Iowa. It's highly unusual for a GM to speak so candidly like Theo did when they let him go. Theo basically threw him under the bus, saying he was released mostly for "being a bad team mate". Now I'm sure if he was a star player things would be different but he's not and he's a borderline starter at best so why even bother? The last thing the Sox need is toxic guys in the clubhouse during the rebuild. With the way the losses are piling up (good in the long term but frustrating short term, see Renteria's ejections) this clubhouse needs positive vibes. That's not Montero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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