GreenSox Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (striker @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) I think Kahnle's floor is what the Red Sox paid for Tyler Thornburg, which was Yeison Coca (Red Sox #25), Josh Pennington (Red Sox #22), Mauricio Dubon (Red Sox #7) and Travis Shaw. Obviously we don't want a major leaguer like Shaw, we prefer prospects, but he had 5 years of control and was worth 2.2WAR when he was traded. I think if you look at the teams that are in the race: Brewers, Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees, Tampa, Dodgers, Diamondback, Rockies, Astros, there will be an arms race for sure. I'm not so sure that that's obvious. We have our prospects. The team is torn down (or will be in 2 weeks). Soon it's build-up time, and you can start taking players with 5 years of control. Relievers are a different story -but position players, sure. These other rebuilders had to spend 2 years amassing prospects. We didn't. Edited July 19, 2017 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I think some of the best values are likely to be MLBers who haven't produced yet (or whose production has dropped off after an initial run of good play). With prospects, everything tends to be sunshine and rainbows. The minute a young guy plays badly in the majors, people start getting down on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:13 PM) Another laudatory fangrphs article on Kahnle today...comparing him to Andrew Miller. Reading that, don't want to trade him quite yet. Holding onto relievers in a rebuild is hero worship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soha Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 06:22 PM) Holding onto relievers in a rebuild is hero worship The Sox need a closer when D Rob is moved. If Kahnle isn't going to fetch much, which he probably won't due to his short track record of success - to me there's little reason to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (Soha @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:27 PM) The Sox need a closer when D Rob is moved. If Kahnle isn't going to fetch much, which he probably won't due to his short track record of success - to me there's little reason to move him. Sox won't need a closer until 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soha Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) Sox won't need a closer until 2019. Alright - my point more is instead of giving him away for pennies on the dollar, why not roll the dice and see if he succeeds as closer. Then he could be worth a fortune. Again, this is on the premise that he doesn't currently bring a lot back with his short track record. This isn't a fire sale - giving away pieces for less than full value or potential value wouldn't be smart. And now Levine has him allegedly in a Yankee deal that is in the works. So we'll see. If they get a a lot back for him, then fine. Edited July 19, 2017 by Soha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Which prospects do the Yankees have in the top 100? Who are their top 10 prospects? Assuming that Kahnle, Robertson and Frazier are dealt to NYY, what should the White Sox expect to receive back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 02:53 AM) Which prospects do the Yankees have in the top 100? Who are their top 10 prospects? Assuming that Kahnle, Robertson and Frazier are dealt to NYY, what should the White Sox expect to receive back? How bout that guy who got 3 hits against the Sox right after he got called up, forget his name. Get him and a catcher prospect and two live arms who are lower level and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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