The Sir Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I'll probably get mocked for this, but I don't like that Brinson is 23, with the clock running, and has had a May-esque cup of coffee in MLB. I know 35 PAs are stupid, but it just bugs me. Didn't like it with Moncada, Giolito or Lopez either. Give me Albies and some other Braves (Gohara and Pache would receive no complaints here). 20 years old in AAA, plus defender, low K rate, yes please. Although, I will ask, how's Brinson's D? All MLB says is that his speed can compensate for shaky reads and jumps, which sounds iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 07:27 AM) If the Brewers are the favorite, then a deal has to be built around Brinson. Add in one of their well regarded arms (Hader, Woodruff, Ortiz) and another interesting positional prospect (Diaz, Clark, Erceg) and I think you have a deal that works. I definitely think Clark will be in any deal with the Brewers, at least I hope so. Like Diaz quite a bit though. Edited July 12, 2017 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 07:54 AM) I'll probably get mocked for this, but I don't like that Brinson is 23, with the clock running, and has had a May-esque cup of coffee in MLB. I know 35 PAs are stupid, but it just bugs me. Didn't like it with Moncada, Giolito or Lopez either. Give me Albies and some other Braves (Gohara and Pache would receive no complaints here). 20 years old in AAA, plus defender, low K rate, yes please. Although, I will ask, how's Brinson's D? All MLB says is that his speed can compensate for shaky reads and jumps, which sounds iffy. I'm sorry, but overreacting to 35 plate appearances is f***ing stupid. Most young guys struggle when they come and to expect instant results is ridiculous. And the 23 years old stuff is utter nonsense. You'd rather have Ozzies Albies and his very limited power potential over Bronson simply because of age? Bronson's ceiling is significantly higher and for a team not planning on being competitive over the next two seasons we should no doubt gamble on Bronson's upside rather than Ozzie's floor if we have the choice. And I say this as someone who likes Albies. Edited July 12, 2017 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Brinson fits right in the age range for what we're doing. I'd much prefer Acuna over him if we were going the Braves route, but he is a tremendous prospect. Edited July 12, 2017 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Been waiting for this deal for awhile now. I'm gona miss Q. Long live the Serpent! I fully trust Hahn on this one. He's set us up nicely. Edited July 12, 2017 by SouthSideSale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Brinson has and is currently destroying AAA at a substantial sample of work, and has demonstrated competent plate discipline and mid-to low K rates in the process. That's an elite prospect we should absolutely love to have. Would arguably be our #2 behind Moncada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:01 AM) I'm sorry, but overreacting to 35 plate appearances is f***ing stupid. Most young guys struggle when they come and to expect instant results is ridiculous. And the 23 years old stuff is utter nonsense. You'd rather have Ozzies Albies and his very limited power potential over Bronson simply because of age? Bronson's ceiling is significantly higher and for a team not planning on being competitive over the next two seasons we should no doubt gamble on Bronson's upside rather than Ozzie's floor if we have the choice. And I say this as someone who likes Albies. Brinson got some pretty sporadic PAs as well. For whatever reason, they brought him up when Villar went on the DL but then didn't commit to playing him regularly. Instead, he got a lot of pinch hitting opportunities. I believe he also was injured after being HBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) Been waiting for this deal for awhile now. I'm gona miss Q. Long live the Serpent! I fully trust Hahn on this one. He's set us up nicely. The Flying Serpent shall soon have his fill on beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:24 AM) The Flying Serpent shall soon have his fill on beer. The blood of his penis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:33 AM) I was looking at the same thing yesterday night...heck, I would probably even take Dubon if I could get Brinson and Hader. We could really use a LHP coming back. Chris Dubon? Duke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:26 AM) Chris Dubon? Duke? Boooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 07:54 AM) I'll probably get mocked for this, but I don't like that Brinson is 23, with the clock running, and has had a May-esque cup of coffee in MLB. I know 35 PAs are stupid, but it just bugs me. Didn't like it with Moncada, Giolito or Lopez either. Give me Albies and some other Braves (Gohara and Pache would receive no complaints here). 20 years old in AAA, plus defender, low K rate, yes please. Although, I will ask, how's Brinson's D? All MLB says is that his speed can compensate for shaky reads and jumps, which sounds iffy. Brinson projects as a plus defender in center field, with a plus arm. He should be able to handle any OF position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 11:03 PM) I was told by someone who has a source (I do not), that the next couple days could be a s*** storm or activity. Nothing new, but another voice who thinks thinks are heating up. Thanks for sharing! Do you think that means a flurry of moves - i.e. multiple pieces in talks. Or just a storm of Q activity? All good if you don't know or can't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Anyone else hoping Rick had put in the last call to teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I honestly wouldn't worry. We now have seen our own players turn it around after subpar starts (Adolfo/Adams), and cool down after hot starts (Anderson/Fulmer). Dansby swanson went from can't miss multi-all star to sophomore slump. It's reassuring when there is just linear progression like Kris Bryant, but it's uncommon. Gotta just believe in a talent like Brinson. As for age/clock, I'm not really concerned. He'd be with us until 2023/4? Anyone with a clock just starting is enough time. I'd say anyone with 4 years or less is a tougher call, unless truly transcendent talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Fwiw, Fangraphs' KATOH+ projection model (mix of stats and prospect rankings) puts Albies as the #8 prospect in baseball, and Brinson 31. The regular KATOH model (straight stats) has Albies at 8 and Brinson at 49 (Charlie Tilson 55!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:36 AM) Anyone else hoping Rick had put in the last call to teams? Sort of. Evening would be most convenient for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:36 AM) Anyone else hoping Rick had put in the last call to teams? So are we thinking a deal gets announced today/tomorrow? So much smoke, but nothing confirmed. I tend to believe the stove is hot when the national guys like Passan/Rosenthal start tweeting about it. They are very well connected across the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:36 AM) Anyone else hoping Rick had put in the last call to teams? I think it's a wise plan. I know I have been somewhat worried it would drag out the whole month and we wouldn't end up moving all our pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 07:36 AM) Anyone else hoping Rick had put in the last call to teams? Me. Can't focus on anything with all the rumors floating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:40 AM) You want Brinson. I want Brinson. Not gonna happen. I feel like this is said about every prospect someone brings up. Guys like Brinson should not be off the table in discussions about Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:38 AM) So are we thinking a deal gets announced today/tomorrow? So much smoke, but nothing confirmed. I tend to believe the stove is hot when the national guys like Passan/Rosenthal start tweeting about it. They are very well connected across the league. Passan did last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) Passan did last night. He did in the podcast, but he did not say whether a deal was happening now now, or just by the deadline. Once Rosenthal jumps in you know that something is going down soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) Passan did last night. He also said he could wait until the offseason when 29 teams may bid. He didn't really commit, it was sort of a "see I told you so" if a trade does happen soon, and a well I told you he may wait until the winter if nothing happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 06:43 AM) He did in the podcast, but he did not say whether a deal was happening now now, or just by the deadline. Once Rosenthal jumps in you know that something is going down soon. Yeah, by then the deal is basically done. The crazy part about what started yesterday is you never know whether that can lead to the Rosenthal tweet or nothing. Nothing is confirmed until it's confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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