Buehrle>Wood Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 This story has been floating NBA circles a lot today for whatever reason. Basically the gist of it is the Bulls received 3.5 million for a draft pick the same day they signed Jake Burger. The Robert signing also thrown in there. Most NBA people seem to believe it. Seems ridiculous given that Reinsdorf probably doesn't even own more than 50% of the Sox (or the Bulls?) And the transfer of funds is not that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:58 PM) This story has been floating NBA circles a lot today for whatever reason. Basically the gist of it is the Bulls received 3.5 million for a draft pick the same day they signed Jake Burger. The Robert signing also thrown in there. Most NBA people seem to believe it. Seems ridiculous given that Reinsdorf probably doesn't even own more than 50% of the Sox (or the Bulls?) And the transfer of funds is not that simple. The Bulls and White Sox are separate businesses. It was used to buyout Rondo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Yes, this is discussed all of the time. Those fans are absolute morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 This is really dumb, whoever started this rumor is an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Anyone that actually believes that is a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Aside from it being obviously dumb...Burger was an underslot sign. This rumor would suggest that the Sox ownership doesn't have the capital to maintain basic business functions like signing draft picks. That isn't even remotely true. That's a terrible rumor even on the worst of sports radio talk stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:58 PM) This story has been floating NBA circles a lot today for whatever reason. Basically the gist of it is the Bulls received 3.5 million for a draft pick the same day they signed Jake Burger. The Robert signing also thrown in there. Most NBA people seem to believe it. Seems ridiculous given that Reinsdorf probably doesn't even own more than 50% of the Sox (or the Bulls?) And the transfer of funds is not that simple. Who in "NBA circles" started that ridiculous crock O crap? Like everybody has stated...they're complete idiots..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 JR owns almost all of the Bulls, but only a fraction of the Sox. If the numbers line up, it is only coincidence, and maybe some history channel writers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:44 PM) The Bulls and White Sox are separate businesses. Watch the write-ups then of Reinsdorf's so-called "legacy" in a few years when his tenure as owner of both teams has ended. They won't seem so "separate" when all of that nonsense begins. The narrative has already begun in several fluff pieces: Reinsdorf being described as "so awesome" for the city of Chicago because he brought "seven" championships to the city. He brought six Bulls trophies to the city of Chicago along with the lonely ONE and only ONE championship achieved on the South Side over his nearly 40 years at the helm there. Certainly very impressive for the basketball franchise; not-so-much for the baseball franchise, not over a forty period. Reinsdorf is somehow being made a hero in this city because he's been compared to the losing likes of the Tribune Company, the McCaskey's, and Bill Wirtz. Can you imagine any faint praise greater than this!! We ought to watch out for the favorable journalistic license already underway to conflate this guy's record during his time on the South Side with that with which Michael Jordan allowed him to achieve with the Bulls. Make no mistake: Reinsdorf's last chance for salvaging his legacy with the Sox is tied to this rebuild. If under Reinsdorf's waning days of ownership, Hahn can manage to acquire and develop the kind of players that will lead to a level of achievement manifesting itself in the organization's FIRST-EVER display of sustainable postseason play, then MAYBE Reinsdorf's legacy will withstand historical scrutiny. Otherwise, he'll simply be lumped in with the Allyns and the rest of the organization's owners responsible for the team's sad record of futility, and it'll open up a golden chance for the NEXT OWNER to achieve what no other Sox owner has managed to achieve: a winning Chicago White Sox baseball organization. Edited July 13, 2017 by Thad Bosley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:34 PM) Watch the write-ups then of Reinsdorf's so-called "legacy" in a few years when his tenure as owner of both teams has ended. The narrative has already begun in several fluff pieces: Reinsdorf being described as "so awesome" for the city of Chicago because he brought "seven" championships to the city. He brought six Bulls trophies along with the lonely ONE and only ONE championship achieved on the South Side over his nearly 40 years at the helm there. Reinsdorf somehow being made a hero in this city because he's compared to the losing likes of the Tribune Company, the McCaskey's, and Bill Wirtz. Can you imagine any faint praise greater than this!! We ought to watch out for the favorable journalistic license already underway to conflate this guy's record during his near 40 year record on the South Side with that with which Michael Jordan allowed him to achieve with the Bulls. Make no mistake: Reinsdorf's last chance for salvaging his legacy is tied to this rebuild. If under Reinsdorf's waning days of ownership, Hahn can manage to acquire and develop the kind of players that will lead to a level of achievement manifesting itself in the organization's FIRST-EVER display of sustainable postseason play, then MAYBE Reinsdorf's legacy will withstand historical scrutiny. Otherwise, he'll be lumped in with the Allyns and the rest with the rest of the organization's sad record of futility. What the f*** does this have to do with anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:34 PM) Watch the write-ups then of Reinsdorf's so-called "legacy" in a few years when his tenure as owner of both teams has ended. The narrative has already begun in several fluff pieces: Reinsdorf being described as "so awesome" for the city of Chicago because he brought "seven" championships to the city. He brought six Bulls trophies to the city of Chicago along with the lonely ONE and only ONE championship achieved on the South Side over his nearly 40 years at the helm there. Reinsdorf somehow being made a hero in this city because he's compared to the losing likes of the Tribune Company, the McCaskey's, and Bill Wirtz. Can you imagine any faint praise greater than this!! We ought to watch out for the favorable journalistic license already underway to conflate this guy's record during his time on the South Side with that with which Michael Jordan allowed him to achieve with the Bulls. Make no mistake: Reinsdorf's last chance for salvaging his legacy with the Sox is tied to this rebuild. If under Reinsdorf's waning days of ownership, Hahn can manage to acquire and develop the kind of players that will lead to a level of achievement manifesting itself in the organization's FIRST-EVER display of sustainable postseason play, then MAYBE Reinsdorf's legacy will withstand historical scrutiny. Otherwise, he'll be lumped in with the Allyns and the rest with the rest of the organization's sad record of futility. Wow, did Reinsdorf run over your dog or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:42 PM) What the f*** does this have to do with anything? Reinsdorf's ownership and management of this organization has EVERYTHING to do with your recent and up-to-the-minute experience as a White Sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) Your obsession with Reinsdorf has reached new, historically creepy levels. "Creepy", in what way? What FACTS do I relay about the owner's near-40 record with this team reach any level that can even remotely be described as "creepy"? He has been absolutely AWFUL for you, me, and every other serious fan of this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:47 PM) Wow, did Reinsdorf run over your dog or something? Nope, I don't even own a dog. I am, however, a fan of the Chicago White Sox. Don't know if you've noticed, but they are in last place as we speak. Not to mention, but their performance the past five years under the current GM has been abysmal. The team as made one lone postseason appearance in the last 12 years since the '05 World Series appearance, in which they won one lone game. Much more to worry about as a Sox fan while Reinsdorf remains owner of our team than the simple facts about his ownership I occasionally remind us all about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Admins, I think it's time you finally ban Thad Bosley. I've defended some of his viewpoints in the past, but he's literally off his rocker and is now polluting random threads with his bizarre Reinsdorf hatred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 11:34 PM) Watch the write-ups then of Reinsdorf's so-called "legacy" in a few years when his tenure as owner of both teams has ended. They won't seem so "separate" when all of that nonsense begins. The narrative has already begun in several fluff pieces: Reinsdorf being described as "so awesome" for the city of Chicago because he brought "seven" championships to the city. He brought six Bulls trophies to the city of Chicago along with the lonely ONE and only ONE championship achieved on the South Side over his nearly 40 years at the helm there. Certainly very impressive for the basketball franchise; not-so-much for the baseball franchise, not over a forty period. Reinsdorf is somehow being made a hero in this city because he's been compared to the losing likes of the Tribune Company, the McCaskey's, and Bill Wirtz. Can you imagine any faint praise greater than this!! We ought to watch out for the favorable journalistic license already underway to conflate this guy's record during his time on the South Side with that with which Michael Jordan allowed him to achieve with the Bulls. Make no mistake: Reinsdorf's last chance for salvaging his legacy with the Sox is tied to this rebuild. If under Reinsdorf's waning days of ownership, Hahn can manage to acquire and develop the kind of players that will lead to a level of achievement manifesting itself in the organization's FIRST-EVER display of sustainable postseason play, then MAYBE Reinsdorf's legacy will withstand historical scrutiny. Otherwise, he'll simply be lumped in with the Allyns and the rest of the organization's owners responsible for the team's sad record of futility, and it'll open up a golden chance for the NEXT OWNER to achieve what no other Sox owner has managed to achieve: a winning Chicago White Sox baseball organization. What the f***? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:29 PM) Admins, I think it's time you finally ban Thad Bosley. I've defended some of his viewpoints in the past, but he's literally off his rocker and is now polluting random threads with his bizarre Reinsdorf hatred. Ahh, YOU'VE defended "some viewpoints in the past", but now YOU'VE decided you don't agree with other relevant viewpoints. Well, Admins, i find myself in agreement with many of the sentiments shared by this poster. Not every point of view, but many of them. But I'd never be so bold or disrespectful as to try and cut his point of view off simply because "I" didn't agree with his point of view, no matter how many times he tried to push them across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 11:44 PM) Ahh, YOU'VE defended "some viewpoints in the past", but now YOU'VE decided you don't agree with other relevant viewpoints. Well, Admins, i find myself in agreement with many of the sentiments shared by this poster. Not every point of view, but many of them. But I'd never be so bold or disrespectful as to try and cut his point of view off simply because "I" didn't agree with his point of view, no matter how many times he tried to push them across. This has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with your viewpoint, it's about the fact that now you simply see the name Reinsdorf and go on a b**** fest. Your post had zero relevance to the subject at hand. You are now derailing conservations as part of your creepy personally ventedda against Reinsdorf. And the worst part is that despite getting called out by multiple posters, you can't acknowledge how bizarre and random your post was and instead go on the defensive of your viewpoint. We all get it, you think Reinsdorf sucks. For the love of god, stop bringing it up at the sight of his name. You are bringing nothing new to the table, you're simply recycling the same old points over and over again. It's behind annoying man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 10:34 PM) Watch the write-ups then of Reinsdorf's so-called "legacy" in a few years when his tenure as owner of both teams has ended. They won't seem so "separate" when all of that nonsense begins. The narrative has already begun in several fluff pieces: Reinsdorf being described as "so awesome" for the city of Chicago because he brought "seven" championships to the city. He brought six Bulls trophies to the city of Chicago along with the lonely ONE and only ONE championship achieved on the South Side over his nearly 40 years at the helm there. Certainly very impressive for the basketball franchise; not-so-much for the baseball franchise, not over a forty period. Reinsdorf is somehow being made a hero in this city because he's been compared to the losing likes of the Tribune Company, the McCaskey's, and Bill Wirtz. Can you imagine any faint praise greater than this!! We ought to watch out for the favorable journalistic license already underway to conflate this guy's record during his time on the South Side with that with which Michael Jordan allowed him to achieve with the Bulls. Make no mistake: Reinsdorf's last chance for salvaging his legacy with the Sox is tied to this rebuild. If under Reinsdorf's waning days of ownership, Hahn can manage to acquire and develop the kind of players that will lead to a level of achievement manifesting itself in the organization's FIRST-EVER display of sustainable postseason play, then MAYBE Reinsdorf's legacy will withstand historical scrutiny. Otherwise, he'll simply be lumped in with the Allyns and the rest of the organization's owners responsible for the team's sad record of futility, and it'll open up a golden chance for the NEXT OWNER to achieve what no other Sox owner has managed to achieve: a winning Chicago White Sox baseball organization. You should sue him for ruining your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 06:29 AM) You should sue him for ruining your life. Let's get a class action going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 They are separate ownership groups and separate legal entities. While there may be some promotional deals worked on jointly, that's the extent the teams are "connected" aside from the chairman being the same guy. Rocky Wirtz owns a piece of the team, but you don't hear the hawks recent trades being done to "clear payroll" for a bulls signing. Even if the ownerships were to merge(Like when the Yankees merged with the nets and later bought the devils), there are clear lines of delineation that have to be respected. League rules prohibit money from one team paying for the other. Not to mention possibly breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 09:34 PM) Watch the write-ups then of Reinsdorf's so-called "legacy" in a few years when his tenure as owner of both teams has ended. They won't seem so "separate" when all of that nonsense begins. The narrative has already begun in several fluff pieces: Reinsdorf being described as "so awesome" for the city of Chicago because he brought "seven" championships to the city. He brought six Bulls trophies to the city of Chicago along with the lonely ONE and only ONE championship achieved on the South Side over his nearly 40 years at the helm there. Certainly very impressive for the basketball franchise; not-so-much for the baseball franchise, not over a forty period. Reinsdorf is somehow being made a hero in this city because he's been compared to the losing likes of the Tribune Company, the McCaskey's, and Bill Wirtz. Can you imagine any faint praise greater than this!! We ought to watch out for the favorable journalistic license already underway to conflate this guy's record during his time on the South Side with that with which Michael Jordan allowed him to achieve with the Bulls. Make no mistake: Reinsdorf's last chance for salvaging his legacy with the Sox is tied to this rebuild. If under Reinsdorf's waning days of ownership, Hahn can manage to acquire and develop the kind of players that will lead to a level of achievement manifesting itself in the organization's FIRST-EVER display of sustainable postseason play, then MAYBE Reinsdorf's legacy will withstand historical scrutiny. Otherwise, he'll simply be lumped in with the Allyns and the rest of the organization's owners responsible for the team's sad record of futility, and it'll open up a golden chance for the NEXT OWNER to achieve what no other Sox owner has managed to achieve: a winning Chicago White Sox baseball organization. and? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) and? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 There are some hot takes here that put Fox News to shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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