BlackSox13 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Aren't the cubs looking for relief help? Wonder if another deal for a Sox reliever could happen between Sox/cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 12:45 PM) That would be bad publicity for the Sox No it would not be bad publicity. Come off it fathlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) Aren't the cubs looking for relief help? Wonder if another deal for a Sox reliever could happen between Sox/cubs. Before this was announced, there were rumblings that Kahnle was a part of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I honestly wonder if the Sox consider promoting both guys like the Cubs were supposedly about to do prior to the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) I honestly wonder if the Sox consider promoting both guys like the Cubs were supposedly about to do prior to the deal. They are going to a new team anyway, might as well move them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Rick Hahn and Theo Epstein played the cloak and dagger game “I GET A PHONE CALL FROM THEO AND I LITERALLY HID BEHIND AN EXHIBIT AT A FAN FEST TO TALK TO THEO ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE DEAL.” “I ESSENTIALLY HAD TO DITCH MY CHILD AT THE MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER,” HAHN ADDED IN AN INTERVIEW ON 670 THE SCORE. THE CALL WAS IMPORTANT. “AT THAT POINT, HE EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS TO POTENTIALLY INCLUDE JIMENEZ AND CASE,” HAHN SAID. “WE SPENT THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS, INCLUDING THE BULK OF THE TIME WHILE I WAS SITTING AT THE ALL-STAR GAME, TEXTING BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THE FINAL TWO PIECES ON THE BACK END OF THIS DEAL. FROM SUNDAY MORNING UNTIL THE END OF TUESDAY NIGHT, IT WAS A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND ON THINGS. BUT YOU’RE ONLY ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE BOTH SIDES, THE WHITE SOX AND THE CUBS, HAVE SPENT ALL THAT TIME AND THE SCOUTS AND ANALYSTS AND THE FRONT OFFICE HAVE SPENT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME PREPARING TO MOVE QUICKLY THIS TIME OF YEAR. WE HAD THAT LEVEL OF COMFORT IN TERMS OF WHO THESE PLAYERS ARE.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) Before this was announced, there were rumblings that Kahnle was a part of it Interesting since we know Hahn prefers not to package players. Sounds like its possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Could not be happier with this move. Considering what I was expecting, this is a great return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Winston-Salem is playing Myrtle Beach, so meet the new teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:04 PM) They are going to a new team anyway, might as well move them up. Completely agree, especially Cease. Dude is more than ready, just needs to stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Gut reaction is an asset like Q should never be traded to the Cubs, especially without them paying WELL over market value. Not sure how I feel about the return yet, want to do a deeper dig on the prospects before coming to a conclusion there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Gut reaction is an asset like Q should never be traded to the Cubs, especially without them paying WELL over market value. Not sure how I feel about the return yet, want to do a deeper dig on the prospects before coming to a conclusion there. Why? Who cares? That stupid meaningless rivalry should have died in 2005 and is for sure dead after 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Hahn said December deals got to the 5 yard line with Q but this one trumps them all Hayes reporting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Gut reaction is an asset like Q should never be traded to the Cubs, especially without them paying WELL over market value. Not sure how I feel about the return yet, want to do a deeper dig on the prospects before coming to a conclusion there. Who cares about the Cubs? We just got the best OF prospect in the game, plus another guy with TOR potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 The only teams that the Sox could have considered asking above Quintana's price point are Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, and Minnesota simply because they may be facing him more regularly over a minimum of the next 4 years, and perhaps longer than that. As is, they'll face Quintana MAYBE once a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) The only teams that the Sox could have considered asking above Quintana's price point are Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, and Minnesota simply because they may be facing him more regularly over a minimum of the next 4 years, and perhaps longer than that. As is, they'll face Quintana MAYBE once a year. I really get confused by the fan response that they don't want the Cubs getting Quintana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:17 PM) We just got the best OF prospect in the game, plus another guy with TOR potential. Eh.. I'll still give that to Acuna, but Jimenez definitely has a case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 KLaw thinks Eloy will be a star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 07:16 PM) The two teams just did a blockbuster together, yet fans still think this is a "thing" If I'm ok with it, everyone should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) Moncada Kopech Basabe Diaz Giolito Lopez Dunning Jimenez Cease Rose Flete Can you believe that we turned a minor league free agent, a number 13 overall draft pick many thought had a ceiling of high leverage reliver, and a 30th round 2006 draft pick into all of that? Holy rebuild batman. I can't wait to see what other trades come... what we end up with out of the 2018 draft... what we end up with out of the 2019 draft... and what we end up out of the 2019 FA class. 2020, holy s*** - here we come! Edited July 13, 2017 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 At the very least, would take Jimenez over Rutherford 10x over (though statements like this ... certainly could come back) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) Hahn asked Theo in middle of the first inning Sunday whether they still wanted starting pitching That is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 07:26 PM) At the very least, would take Jimenez over Rutherford 10x over (though statements like this ... certainly could come back) Fwiw, in today's chat, KLaw said Rutherford isn't hitting anything hard this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) KLaw thinks Eloy will be a star Lol...for now! Wait till he has to make his next list and watch all the "holes in Eloy's game" that start showing up in his write-up now that he's in the Sox' system. Keith Law sees our logo and instantly dumps. Edited July 13, 2017 by FT35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Gut reaction is an asset like Q should never be traded to the Cubs, especially without them paying WELL over market value. Not sure how I feel about the return yet, want to do a deeper dig on the prospects before coming to a conclusion there. Why do they need to pay well over if it's already the best offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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