witesoxfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:03 PM) I'm really not sure that is a fact He's saying it wouldn't cost a ton of prospects to acquire Miggy. I don't think it would cost much, but I don't think the Tigers would do it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 01:08 PM) He's saying it wouldn't cost a ton of prospects to acquire Miggy. I don't think it would cost much, but I don't think the Tigers would do it anyways. He seems to be saying the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 02:58 PM) Not sure it would cost much in prospects... I would think the fallout of a Miggy salary dump in Detroit would be disastrous. We can all see it isn't going to end welll with their payroll and aging in Detroit. Avila is going to have to be Houdini to get out of this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) He's saying it wouldn't cost a ton of prospects to acquire Miggy. I don't think it would cost much, but I don't think the Tigers would do it anyways. I don't think there is any way the Tigers would trade him for anything but top of the line prospects unless he really was sliding, which he will eventually. Time beats everyone. Who would have guessed Pujols OPS with the Angels would be .250 lowere than it was with the Cardinals while he still had 4+ years and around $130 million left on the contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 01:16 PM) I don't think there is any way the Tigers would trade him for anything but top of the line prospects unless he really was sliding, which he will eventually. Time beats everyone. Who would have guessed Pujols OPS with the Angels would be .250 lowere than it was with the Cardinals while he still had 4+ years and around $130 million left on the contract? I understand what you're saying. It sounds like they want a really strong package for Verlander for the very same reasons. They need to face reality...those guys are worth a lot more to them than to any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:09 PM) He seems to be saying the opposite. I guess I interpreted it differently than that, but I may be wrong. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:16 PM) I don't think there is any way the Tigers would trade him for anything but top of the line prospects unless he really was sliding, which he will eventually. Time beats everyone. Who would have guessed Pujols OPS with the Angels would be .250 lowere than it was with the Cardinals while he still had 4+ years and around $130 million left on the contract? Right, it's similar to Abreu with the Sox right now. It would take a ton to acquire him because of the goodwill he's built with the organization. Even in a down year, he is much more valuable to the Tigers than anyone else. It may be fun to speculate what it would take, but I'd say the odds are similar to Cabrera playing for the Red Sox as they are for the White Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:37 PM) I was just going to ask that question. Do they actually go out and give these guys physicals? Of course they do it's a multi billion dollar industry. You do due diligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 04:24 PM) I guess I interpreted it differently than that, but I may be wrong. Right, it's similar to Abreu with the Sox right now. It would take a ton to acquire him because of the goodwill he's built with the organization. Even in a down year, he is much more valuable to the Tigers than anyone else. It may be fun to speculate what it would take, but I'd say the odds are similar to Cabrera playing for the Red Sox as they are for the White Sox. Cabrera probably has negative trade value unless the Tigers are pitching in 70-120 million, and I don't see them doing that. He's a 3-4 WAR player going forward, at best, and he's being paid like a 6 WAR guy. He's on one of the worst contracts in baseball given his decline, which was incredibly predictable. He's 34 and his been injury prone for a few years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) Cabrera probably has negative trade value unless the Tigers are pitching in 70-120 million, and I don't see them doing that. He's a 3-4 WAR player going forward, at best, and he's being paid like a 6 WAR guy. He's on one of the worst contracts in baseball given his decline, which was incredibly predictable. He's 34 and his been injury prone for a few years now. Oh I completely agree, don't get me wrong. I just don't see the Tigers doing something like that for a guy they've had for like 10 years now. He'll still hit 500 homers and might still get to 600 as long as his health holds up, which is no certainty given his size and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 01:45 PM) Boston Strong @BostonStrong_34 Source; Red Sox are close to a deal with the White Sox for Todd Frazier. This guy is legit Rosenthal; "A Red Sox trade for Todd Frazier is almost inevitable." https://twitter.com/BostonStrong_34/status/...326468405592064 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) Rosenthal; "A Red Sox trade for Todd Frazier is almost inevitable." https://twitter.com/BostonStrong_34/status/...326468405592064 Rosenthal saying it... gotta be as legit as it gets now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Gaining traction, for Groome or Travis. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...-option-red-sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) Gaining traction, for Groome or Travis. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...-option-red-sox Edit: I see no reference to Groome or Travis Edited July 15, 2017 by hi8is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 05:00 PM) Edit: I see no reference to Groome or Travis Same. I need to see that in writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) Rosenthal; "A Red Sox trade for Todd Frazier is almost inevitable." https://twitter.com/BostonStrong_34/status/...326468405592064 Yeah he said this on the Boston/NYY game on FS1. Sale on the mound. AJP in the booth. And DD in conversation with John Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) Yeah he said this on the Boston/NYY game on FS1. Sale on the mound. AJP in the booth. And DD in conversation with John Henry. Fraziers wifey retweeted the link too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 04:00 PM) Gaining traction, for Groome or Travis. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...-option-red-sox Lol yeah that's not gonna happen unless this deal also includes a reliever. Edit: OR the sox are taking back a bad contract (or part of a bad contract). Edited July 15, 2017 by Username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Red Sox current 3B with the error... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 QUOTE (Scoots @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 05:18 PM) Red Sox current 3B with the error... Hahn quickly calls DD... So how about we start at Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 What I said on @FS1 broadcast is that it "seems almost inevitable" #RedSox will get Frazier. "Seems" is not "is." But makes total sense. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/886334120913231872 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Ugh just get on with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I'd call Groome for Frazier a pipe dream at best. As for Travis? Ehh doesn't seem far fetched, but is he really much of a prize? Doesn't seem to offer big power for a guy that is limited to 1st base only. The problem is the Red Sox seem pretty limited as far as position player prospects. The 2 most interesting guys are Michael Chavis (3B) and Josh Ockimey (1B). If we could get 1 of them + a low level reliever with a big arm (preferably LH) I'd be pretty happy. I just think it's pretty important to get rid of Frazier ASAP before he inevitably gets into another slump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 What about Dalbeck? He's blocked by Devers and I like what I've read about him, is he a possibility ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Doesn't look like anything is imminent. Frazier is signing autographs. Edited July 15, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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