KnightsOnMintSt Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He seems like a tough guy to put a finger on. He is still relatively young in the sense that he was drafted just last year. However, he is 20. Some people are unimpressed with his power. What do we think he can and will become? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 04:50 PM) He seems like a tough guy to put a finger on. He is still relatively young in the sense that he was drafted just last year. However, he is 20. Some people are unimpressed with his power. What do we think he can and will become? Who knows, I did read he had comps to David Justice although I don't see it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) Who knows, I did read he had comps to David Justice although I don't see it myself. That is the mlb pipeline comp I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Pre cubs Jason Heyward? Pure guess because I've never even see the kid play, but skill set wise I'm trying to think of good all around, athletic RF's that don't have huge power. Maybe even Nick Markakis circa 2008-2010? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 04:40 PM) Who knows, I did read he had comps to David Justice although I don't see it myself. The best part of Dave Justice was his ex-wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Draft comp was Grady Sizemore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 His power will come around and play as he matures. 25 / 25 guy is foreseeable for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 That is a lofty comparison but how about bobby abreu? I read great things about his hitting ability and also his batting eye. Body and arm project for a corner rather than cf and if his hit tool and plate discipline really developes and he also developes like 20 hr power that could be a great hitter. He probably won't walk as much as abreu (few did) but if he can hit 300 with 10% walks and slightly above average power that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The closest comp to him I see on this thread is probably younger Markakis...I think Sizemore is too fast for Rutherford and Abreu/Heyward have too much pop I'm not too big on Rutherford but I suppose his ceiling is a 15-20 homer/.280 guy with 10-15 steals, RF of course...I just don't see him on our future Series roster, Clarkin on the other hand I could see as a backend of the rotation guy or 'pen piece at worst and Polo has a ceiling of a backup OFer, both closer to the Show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Rutherfords upside is a guy who hits .280/30 HR/20 SB and plays elite RF. Not sure he gets there, but that is what you should get if he were to hit his ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 09:07 AM) The closest comp to him I see on this thread is probably younger Markakis...I think Sizemore is too fast for Rutherford and Abreu/Heyward have too much pop I'm not too big on Rutherford but I suppose his ceiling is a 15-20 homer/.280 guy with 10-15 steals, RF of course...I just don't see him on our future Series roster, Clarkin on the other hand I could see as a backend of the rotation guy or 'pen piece at worst and Polo has a ceiling of a backup OFer, both closer to the Show If he is actually a .280/20/15sb guy it won't matter if he's our WS roster guy, he may be the reason we some other roster series pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just watching some videos on him and I think its pretty obvious he has a long way to go with that swing. He has to shorten it up a bunch, its long and he seems to be off balance on a lot of stuff even when he connects. Not gonna have any power when you are off balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Jacoby Ellsbury with less speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 10:29 AM) If he is actually a .280/20/15sb guy it won't matter if he's our WS roster guy, he may be the reason we some other roster series pieces. Obviously rooting for the kid but I don't see him putting it together, still far from the show and has very little to get excited about, not sure why he's ranked so high With that said, Moniak, the first pick of '16 and a HS OFer has even less inspiring numbers in the same league, Rutherford is older however by a year Still wish JR ate some money on D-Rob and took a package with Mateo or Andujar or even busted knee Fowler, we'll see though, really rooting for Rutherford Still a fan of Clarkin (who I think is a legitimate back end rotation guy) and Polo (who I think can be a valuable backup OF) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I wouldn't say there's nothing to get excited about. He is only striking out 18% of the time, and walking a little over 8% of the time. The glaring part is power. And he is hitting doubles, he doesn't appear to be hitting a Collins amount of groundballs either. It is just power. But if the power never comes he's useless. But it'd be worse if it was no power, no discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) Rutherfords upside is a guy who hits .280/30 HR/20 SB and plays elite RF. Not sure he gets there, but that is what you should get if he were to hit his ceiling. This reminds me of Hawk talking about Avi's ceiling. Too optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 11:05 AM) This reminds me of Hawk talking about Avi's ceiling. Too optimistic. That's reasonable for ceiling. Whether he comes close is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I don't like talking about ceilings... very few players ever reach their ceiling. It is a better discussion to talk about what he is likely to become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) That's reasonable for ceiling. Whether he comes close is another matter. Based on fangraphs present and future value of his tools, it's hard to project 30/20 with elite defense, even if we're talking about pure ceiling. I think .300 20 HR 10 SB with above average corner outfield defense is more likely his ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) I don't like talking about ceilings... very few players ever reach their ceiling. It is a better discussion to talk about what he is likely to become. Well since he is in A ball, what he is likely to become is something between his floor and his ceiling, so it's pretty damn impossible to know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 08:29 AM) Well since he is in A ball, what he is likely to become is something between his floor and his ceiling, so it's pretty damn impossible to know that. Tell us EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 10:47 AM) Tell us EXACTLY! Adam Eaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Grady Sizemore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 09:03 AM) Grady Sizemore? I hope his health projects better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 10:47 AM) Tell us EXACTLY! Think about a combination of Shaquille O'Neal and Joe Montana. Then imagine said combo grabbing a baseball bat and walking to the plate. Imagine them taking a few swings and how far they'd hit the ball. This is not what Blake Rutherford's upside is, but I'm guessing you have some weird thoughts going through your head right now, and I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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