Jose Abreu Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 O'Neill, the #29 prospect in baseball, has been traded to St. Louis for LHP Marco Gonzales per the Mariners Twitter account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 If this is all it took for such a prospect, we could've given them David Holmberg or Swarzak or something. An unbelievably lopsided trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 What the bulls*** is this? this is unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't love O'Neil, but this is odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Gonzales was as high as a top 50 prospect a couple years back, and has been very good in AAA this year, but this seems strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) If this is all it took for such a prospect, we could've given them David Holmberg or Swarzak or something. An unbelievably lopsided trade. Yeah, Holmberg might be a reasonable comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 Cards fans online are speculating that they may be looking to flip O'Neill, however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantl916 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 i mean... oneil isnt the coolest thing on the planet but hes a legit prospect... we couldnt give gonzo + swarzek + whatever for that? marco gonzalez is a 4/5 sp at best... this screams seattle not talking to others about this and settling for the first thing that came their way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Holmberg + Swarzak for Clint Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Ok, I stand a touch corrected. Gonzales has been good since his injury and this seems like a decent trade. From SEA prospective, they are getting a former first round pick who after his injury is doing really well. From ST Louis they get a top prospect or a trade chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Totally feels like a flip is coming. They've got Bader and like 5 former top prospects plus Fowler already in that OF. Could just be a buy-low on O'Neill taking advantage of the Mariners desperation, but I don't see them sitting on all those guys. Guessing a cost-controlled bat because the starting staff is loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) After reading Longenhagen's writeup on O'Neill this doesn't seem as bad, I don't think anyone else but MLB.com considers him anything close to a top 30 prospect, and I think with this trade it's clear the Mariners don't either. Edited July 21, 2017 by OmarComing25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) Could also see someone like Grichuk or Piscotty get moved in a change of scenery type of move. Both have struggled. Edited July 21, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (Username @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) Totally feels like a flip is coming. They've got Bader and like 5 former top prospects plus Fowler already in that OF. Could just be a buy-low on O'Neill taking advantage of the Mariners desperation, but I don't see them sitting on all those guys. Guessing a cost-controlled bat because the starting staff is loaded. But regardless of how much the Mariners may have soured on O'Neill, it's still puzzling that they couldn't have gotten a better return, especially from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 O'Neil isn't even on BA's updated top 100. Though I do like this trade for the Cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 12:20 PM) But regardless of how much the Mariners may have soured on O'Neill, it's still puzzling that they couldn't have gotten a better return, especially from us. Definitely agree on that. Though people are probably a bit too low on Gonzalez. Either way, feels unnecessary for the Cards unless they're making another move. 40 man crunch will be a big problem otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) What's the reason Seattle would have soured on Tyler? His numbers seem decent enough every stop. Edited July 21, 2017 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 12:02 PM) What's the reason Seattle would have soured on Tyler? His numbers seem decent enough every stop. This is the million dollar question--sometimes there is a lot more to the story that moves a team to trade someone in what seems to be a lopsided deal. Sometimes personal reasons come in to play--sometimes it's a maturity thing, wants to be closer to home--misses mommy--there's a world of human element that factors into a players' future with the team that gets blocked by the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Tyler had a 27% K-rate in AAA and averaged higher for most of his minor league career. My trading philosophy on prospects with high K-rates is get what you can when you can get it, there's a overwhelmingly high chance this kid will never be a productive major league hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 12:17 PM) After reading Longenhagen's writeup on O'Neill this doesn't seem as bad, I don't think anyone else but MLB.com considers him anything close to a top 30 prospect, and I think with this trade it's clear the Mariners don't either. Plus pitching, especially LHP is always more valuable then hitting. One for one it's not a bad trade. O'neill's stats really don't bear any superstar potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 QUOTE (mac9001 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 01:07 PM) Tyler had a 27% K-rate in AAA and averaged higher for most of his minor league career. My trading philosophy on prospects with high K-rates is get what you can when you can get it, there's a overwhelmingly high chance this kid will never be a productive major league hitter. How do you feel about Moncada then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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